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new age beliefs thats wrong

URAVIP2ME

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Isn't there a difference between "non-repent" and "wicked"? I would certainly think so.
Resurrection is for the righteous and unrighteous ( Acts 24:15 KJV just and unjust )
If a person does Not repent they can end up as wicked being 'destroyed forever' - Psalms 92:7; 104:35; 145:20
Notice the choice at 2nd Peter 3:9 to repent if one does Not wand to perish ( be destroyed )
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Copies of copies were made which is why there are now over 3000 different versions of the bible, it is unknown, it cannot be known which is the most accurate because there is no original to compare with
However, since the Bible is chock full of corresponding or parallel cross-reference verses and passages that shows the internal harmony among the many Bible writers.
This is a reason why Jesus often prefaced his statements with the words, " It is written...." meaning already written down in the OT so Jesus used logical reasoning on the OT on which to base his teachings for us even explaining or expounding Scripture for us.
A coming future to peacefully enjoy coffee together when Earth will be a described in Isaiah's 35th chapter; Psalm 22:26
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
The standard model of the universe gives inflation up to 10e-32 of a second after the bb
At that time the universe consisted of super dense, super heated plasma.
Men's explosions go from cold to hot
The 'bb' went from Hot to Cold
Some people try to tell me God created from nothing. Not true - Psalm 104:30
God sent forth His spirit to bring about 'bb' aka material creation
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
........................, but, I think the OP was seeing heaven as a permanent place of peace and love as in the Christian tradition.
I can agree that Heaven is a permanent place of peace and love as in Christian Scripture
Because Heaven is a permanent place of peace and love is why we ask for God's will (His purpose) to be done here on Earth as it is done in Heaven
In Heaven there is: No crime, No violence, No pollution, No war, No sickness and No death in Heaven
Thus, we are asking for those same peaceful-and-lovely heavenly conditions to come and exist right here on Earth
..... and they will come and exist on Earth - Micah 4:3-4; Isaiah 2:4; 33:24; 1st Corinthians 15:24-26
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Or, simply Not factual or Not relevant to anyone who disagrees with the Bible
There is nothing to disagree with regarding the Bible. It's literature from many thousands of years agoe. The disagreement is with those in the 21st century who interpret it literally to varying degrees. Of course even Christians disagree with each other.
Biblical hell (Not some religious-myth burning place) but biblical hell is simply the grave for the sleeping dead
That is one historical explanation.
The temporary stone-cold grave for the sleeping dead til Resurrection Day (Resurrection Day Jesus' coming 1,000 yr. day)
Remember: the dead know nothing but sleep: Psalms 6:5; 13:3; 115:17; Isaiah 38:18; Ecclesiastes 9:5; John 11:11-14
Dead Jesus went to biblical hell but dead Jesus did Not end up staying there - Acts 2:27; 3:15
ALL the righteous and unrighteous (KJV says just and unjust) will be resurrected out of biblical hell/grave - Acts 24:15
The Bible God that I believe is True and does Not burn anyone. ( What is Non-physical that burns anyway ? )
Adam sent himself to the grave (biblical hell) by deliberately breaking the law of Genesis 2:17
No post-mortem burning for Adam, No double jeopardy to be paid for Adam, just going back to dust - Gen. 3:19
On other words, going back returning to the dust is biblical hell/ grave
Adam sent himself to his death, but God promised life 'a seed' (Messiah) to come and give us life - Gen. 3:15
None of this is a coherent argument.

'damning facts about the Bible' or typical false clergy teaching lies about the Bible
Such as: suffering after death when the dead know nothing - Ecclesiastes 9:5; Isaiah 38:18; Psalm 115:17; John 11:11-14
Heck, even Christians can't agree what it all means. So why don't you Christians get together and decide what God's "truth" is. Then get back to us.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
To me, if one wants or would like a resurrection (either to heaven or on earth) one needs the existence of God
We can't resurrect oneself or another so we need someone who can resurrect us
IMHO, those who want resurrection are living in a fool's paradise. You live only once. God is no different from demons, creatures that human imagination has created.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
However, since the Bible is chock full of corresponding or parallel cross-reference verses and passages that shows the internal harmony among the many Bible writers.
This is a reason why Jesus often prefaced his statements with the words, " It is written...." meaning already written down in the OT so Jesus used logical reasoning on the OT on which to base his teachings for us even explaining or expounding Scripture for us.
A coming future to peacefully enjoy coffee together when Earth will be a described in Isaiah's 35th chapter; Psalm 22:26

Yet all versions have differences, and are interpreted differently. Hence there are now close on 50,000 versions of Christianity each interpreting the version of the bible they prefer in the way yhat they want.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Men's explosions go from cold to hot
The 'bb' went from Hot to Cold
Some people try to tell me God created from nothing. Not true - Psalm 104:30
God sent forth His spirit to bring about 'bb' aka material creation

Mens explosions are irrelevant.

And how do you know the bb didn't start as cold? It certainly inflated rapidly, the plasma reaching billions of degrees before beginning to cool. Before the start of the inflationary period nothing is known.

Psalm 104:30 says nothing about the bb

The bible is unforthcoming about how god is supposed to have created it, just that he did
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
............................................. ............... Heck, even Christians can't agree what it all means. So why don't you Christians get together and decide what God's "truth" is. Then get back to us.
Jesus decided what truth is. The 'religious truth' aka Scripture - John 17:17
Already first-century Christians were forewarned at Acts 20:29-30 that false Christians would soon appear
The true and the false can't get together, can't mix different teachings together
The false will Not listen to the teachings of Jesus, but mostly go along with religious customs or traditions outside of Scripture but simply being taught as being Scripture - Matthew 15:9 - To have their 'ears tickled' - 2nd Timothy 4:3
Remember: Matthew 7:21-23 because Jesus informed us that MANY would come in his name but prove false
So, to me Jesus already did ' get back to us '
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I've just had a thought here..
If it not true that he created it from nothing then he didn't actually create it did he??? What he must have done is modified something. Anyone can modify stuff.
Jesus thinks his God is The Creator - Rev. 4:11
Thus, God modified His created stuff to do something - Psalm 104:30
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Jesus decided what truth is. The 'religious truth' aka Scripture - John 17:17
Already first-century Christians were forewarned at Acts 20:29-30 that false Christians would soon appear
The true and the false can't get together, can't mix different teachings together
The false will Not listen to the teachings of Jesus, but mostly go along with religious customs or traditions outside of Scripture but simply being taught as being Scripture - Matthew 15:9 - To have their 'ears tickled' - 2nd Timothy 4:3
Remember: Matthew 7:21-23 because Jesus informed us that MANY would come in his name but prove false
So, to me Jesus already did ' get back to us '
None of this is a coherent argument. So irrelevant.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Mens explosions are irrelevant.
And how do you know the bb didn't start as cold? It certainly inflated rapidly, the plasma reaching billions of degrees before beginning to cool. Before the start of the inflationary period nothing is known.
Psalm 104:30 says nothing about the bb
The bible is unforthcoming about how god is supposed to have created it, just that he did
Don't men's bombs inflate rapidly but going from cold to HOT
Outside of the Bible nothing is known before the start of the inflationary period except that at Psalm 90:2 God is from everlasting ( in other words, No beginning, No starting point for God )
The Bible (Genesis) is Not about how God created it but rather about getting Earth ready for us - Psalm 115:16 B
Perhaps with Adam then God was forthcoming about how He created Earth if Adam wanted to know
Without sin there was No reason for a person to not be forthcoming. Nothing to block mankind from knowing
Since we are all descended from fallen father Adam what is important for now is the settling of the 'sin issue'
Once the sin issue is settled, by the end of Jesus 1000 yr reign over Earth knowledge will be increased to a degree that now we do not yet know
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Don't men's bombs inflate rapidly but going from cold to HOT
Outside of the Bible nothing is known before the start of the inflationary period except that at Psalm 90:2 God is from everlasting ( in other words, No beginning, No starting point for God )
The Bible (Genesis) is Not about how God created it but rather about getting Earth ready for us - Psalm 115:16 B
Perhaps with Adam then God was forthcoming about how He created Earth if Adam wanted to know
Without sin there was No reason for a person to not be forthcoming. Nothing to block mankind from knowing
Since we are all descended from fallen father Adam what is important for now is the settling of the 'sin issue'
Once the sin issue is settled, by the end of Jesus 1000 yr reign over Earth knowledge will be increased to a degree that now we do not yet know

The bible is not a scientific paper or history book.

There is no point in taking this further, you are welcome to your beliefs.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
The bible is not a scientific paper or history book.
There is no point in taking this further, you are welcome to your beliefs.
The 'Earth hangs upon nothing' to me is a scientific point that is in harmony with science and Bible - Job 26:7 B
Archaeological artifact digs harmonize with the Bible
I had a school teacher who did Not believe Pilate existed (Bible not accurate) so when the discovery was announced at class she was surprised
By not taking this further seems to indicate I am not welcome to my beliefs/thinking
Since I believe our future is at stake then what we add to our fund of knowledges increases our understanding
 
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