new age beliefs thats wrong

[Starlight]

So you two wouldst judge others.

We do not judge others. It is not judging to say actions have consequences

 

[Starlight]

Then why are you disappointed?

I am disappointed because I believe those books is only half-truths

But that is my belief. You can believe everything you want

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I believe God has no religion. God is beyond religion

And no, i do not believe God has done what is written in the old testament

In a sense but only limited sense, then God is an atheist, as I understand the concept of God, because I believe God is natural to God.

 

[Starlight]

In a sense but only limited sense, then God is an atheist, as I understand the concept of God, because I believe God is natural to God.

I do not think God is an atheist, God know he/she is God

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I do not think God is an atheist, God know he/she is God

Well, to be honest I don't think that we can decide that based on how we think one way or another.
But I am glad that you can find positive sense in your belief in God. I wish I could believe, but I am to much of a skeptic to do that.

 

[Audie]

I believe God has no religion. God is beyond religion

And no, i do not believe God has done what is written in the old testament

Ok, so the above does not apply, as you've
devised your own god.
Christians explain away the evil in Bible
stories, and, the ugliness, cruelty, and injustice
of life.

How do you reconcile those with a god of love and justice?

 

[Audie]

I am disappointed because I believe those books is only half-truths

But that is my belief. You can believe everything you want

You found even half?

 

[Audie]

We do not judge others. It is not judging to say actions have consequences

To say one is unworthy of heaven certainly is judging.

 

[Starlight]

To say one is unworthy of heaven certainly is judging.

So you think Adolf Hitler went directly to heaven after he died?

I believe that make no sense. Of course Hitler did not directly go to heaven

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

So you think Adolf Hitler went directly to heaven after he died?

Well, I have heard about one version of faith, where if he repented just before he died, then yes.
But I have no opinion on that myself, since I am an atheist.

 

[Spice]

I believe what is said in the Bible. And on basis of it, not all go to heaven.

Or don't you know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor slanderers, nor extortioners, will inherit the Kingdom of God.
1 Cor. 6:9-10
But when Jesus saw it, he was moved with indignation, and said to them, "Allow the little children to come to me! Don't forbid them, for the Kingdom of God belongs to such as these. Most assuredly I tell you, whoever will not receive the Kingdom of God like a little child, he will in no way enter into it."
Mark 10:14-15
and said, "Most assuredly I tell you, unless you turn, and become as little children, you will in no way enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
Matt. 18:3

But what do you say to these passages:
John 17:1When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you, 2since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him.. . . 12While I was with them, I kept them in your name, which you have given me. I have guarded them, and not one of them has been lost except the son of destruction, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.
Matthew 20:15Am I not allowed to do what I choose with what belongs to me? Or do you begrudge my generosity?’

 

[Audie]

So you think Adolf Hitler went directly to heaven after he died?

Godwin? Really?

First, there's no heaven. He just died.

Second, if you're going to dodge, throw back at
me, we're done. I've no respect for that.

Now, do you actually deny that saying
someone is unworthy of heaven is in
fact judging ?

 

[Starlight]

Godwin? Really?

First, there's no heaven. He just died.

Second, if you're going to dodge, throw back at
me, we're done. I've no respect for that.

Now, do you actually deny that saying
someone is unworthy of heaven is in
fact judging ?

You did not answer my question

 

[Starlight]

Well, I have heard about one version of faith, where if he repented just before he died, then yes.
But I have no opinion on that myself, since I am an atheist.

If he repented just before he died he still has much karma. Karma does not go away just because he has repended. he still have to face the consequences of his actions

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

If he repented just before he died he still has much karma. Karma does not go away just because he has repended. he still have to face the consequences of his actions

Yeah, then you are in effect doing an act of judging in a sense, because you judge his actions to be in effect bad.

 

[Starlight]

Yeah, then you are in effect doing an act of judging in a sense, because you judge his actions to be in effect bad.

almost all people believe his actions was bad. So if that is judging then ok

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

almost all people believe his actions was bad. So if that is judging then ok

Well, no me. I don't like what he did, but I don't believe in bad actions. To me bad is a subjective judgment.

 

[Spice]

Ok, so the above does not apply, as you've
devised your own god.
Christians explain away the evil in Bible
stories, and, the ugliness, cruelty, and injustice
of life.

How do you reconcile those with a god of love and justice?

The Bible is man's perspective of God. Even if "inspired" man is the author. In a violent world, God will most likely be an advenger. In an oppressed world, God will most likely be a Savior. God is all things according to man's perspective. As humankind continues to evolve, IMO, we get closer to discovering the real God.

 

[Spice]

Yeah, then you are in effect doing an act of judging in a sense, because you judge his actions to be in effect bad.

All do wrong, and all will suffer the consequences. . .equally. . .

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

All do wrong, and all will suffer the consequences. . .equally. . .

Well, to me that is too simple. But if it works of you, then fine. I still do it differently.