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New scandal:Trump Caught Insulting Women!

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Many presidents have been adulterers. But, much worse, some presidents have been known to invade countries killing hundreds of thousands of lives on the basis of false claims about mas destruction weapons.
Please excise me if I don't get heated over what Mr Trump did a decade ago.

Question. Have you ever made love with a married man? I seem to remember posts of yours that explained your past? Is that right?
His comments are about much more than adultery. They're about sexual assault.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I assume there those of you that despise womanizing men that would be and were President might have an issue with JFK and those that even had mistresses like Ike, and FDR. Why don't we just realize that given the chance most men and even women, given the chance will "get some on the side". As a matter of fact it has been put forth that if you put a bunch of women together they will put men to shame in their sex talk.

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Now I'm not defending Trump and I do think it was beyond despicable what he implied and do not give him a pass on it. However, saying and doing is two different things.
"Getting some on the side" and sexually assaulting people are quite different things. Let's not pretend they're the same.

I've been sexually assaulted (and so have millions more women) by men like Trump who think they're entitled to just do whatever they want - as he said in the tape. It's disgusting, deplorable and unacceptable. I'm glad someone in the Trump camp finally agrees with that much, at least.
 
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The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
The middle class will fail without the existence of a powerful corporate class, who'll pay for the middle class?

Who'll pay for the middle class? The middle class do while also paying for the corporate class because of the obscene amount of corporate welfare in America.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Well, let's see. You have one candidate that had a potty mouth as a young man (I'm sure he's the only one in the world thus afflicted) , and you have another candidate that's a congenital liar who is also responsible for the death of four Americans including an American Ambassador....hmmmmm...
Young man?! He was 59 years old at the time.

And
he's a pathological liar.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Shh. Don't confuse @FearGod with facts. I think the best strategy is to let him punch himself out. ;)

:facepalm: Deficit is a one year calculation and mainly because of less spending by the government
whereas the debt is fixed for all the money owed, are you really fooled by such simple things.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
"Getting some on the side" and sexually assaulting people are quite different things. Let's not pretend they're the same.

I've been sexually assaulted (and so have millions more women) by men like Trump who think they're entitled to just do whatever they want - as he said in the tape. It's disgusting, deplorable and unacceptable. I'm glad someone finally agrees with that much, at least.
I think you'll be heartened to read this. Here's an excerpt:

An Open Letter To Donald Trump From Some Angry Women.

We heard you say no one would vote for Carly Fiorina “because of her face.”

We remember you calling women “a beautiful piece of ***” in Esquire Magazine.

We watch you say one thing, then say the opposite. Then refuse to admit any of it happened. Problem is, we can spot gas lighting from a mile away.

We recall the bit about all women being gold diggers in your memoir.

We cringe and hold our daughters a little closer when we are reminded that you said you’d date your daughter. If only she weren’t your daughter.

We remember when you called a lawyer “disgusting” for requesting a break during a trial to breastfeed.

We roll our eyes when we saw you try to dismiss Megyn Kelly after she had the nerve to ask you questions. At a debate. “Blood coming out of her wherever” was not lost on us. Most of us remember hearing such comments in Middle School.

We are horrified when we learn that you sent a journalist a picture of herself with the word “Dog” scrawled across it.

We seethe with anger when we read your tweet blaming military sexual assault on the fact that women are in the military.

We haven’t forgotten your lurid tweet about Hillary Clinton not being able to “satisfy” her husband.

Not only do you not understand women, you seem to have an awful lot of contempt for them. This is not fitting for a man who wants to be President in the 21st Century.


 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Insulting women?... hell, most heterosexual men talk to each other this way. Not all of the time but sometimes, and if they say they don't they are lying. I am with Trump. I love beautiful women also; tall, short, big, small. I have grabbed plenty of my girlfriends by the p****, its called sexual foreplay. This is a "trumped" up story exasperated by asexual feminist women. Give me a break, I'm not buying it... it's absolute bull-s**t!!
How about people that weren't your girlfriend? Grab a lot of their p***ies? That's what Trump is talking about. Not consensual foreplay. :facepalm:
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
His comments are about much more than adultery. They're about sexual assault.
OK...... so don't vote for him!
Thing is....... over several years now I have read US member's views and very very few people seemed to hold President Obama in high regard, who always seemed to me to be one of the best US Presidents during my lifetime. Several previous Presidents had waged war on disinformation, used their position to have affairs, supported criminal offences which they then tried to cover up, blah blah... etc. but not too many comments about all that.

Now folks are screaming 'Criminal Offences' against a candidate who was not indicted, tried or convicted for those.
The way I see it, you've got two nominees, both having been accused of criminal offences I believe?
So just vote for one or t'other, or abstain........ take your pick. Either way we are in for an interesting few years. ;)
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I think you'll be heartened to read this. Here's an excerpt:

An Open Letter To Donald Trump From Some Angry Women.

We heard you say no one would vote for Carly Fiorina “because of her face.”

We remember you calling women “a beautiful piece of ***” in Esquire Magazine.

We watch you say one thing, then say the opposite. Then refuse to admit any of it happened. Problem is, we can spot gas lighting from a mile away.

We recall the bit about all women being gold diggers in your memoir.

We cringe and hold our daughters a little closer when we are reminded that you said you’d date your daughter. If only she weren’t your daughter.

We remember when you called a lawyer “disgusting” for requesting a break during a trial to breastfeed.

We roll our eyes when we saw you try to dismiss Megyn Kelly after she had the nerve to ask you questions. At a debate. “Blood coming out of her wherever” was not lost on us. Most of us remember hearing such comments in Middle School.

We are horrified when we learn that you sent a journalist a picture of herself with the word “Dog” scrawled across it.

We seethe with anger when we read your tweet blaming military sexual assault on the fact that women are in the military.

We haven’t forgotten your lurid tweet about Hillary Clinton not being able to “satisfy” her husband.

Not only do you not understand women, you seem to have an awful lot of contempt for them. This is not fitting for a man who wants to be President in the 21st Century.

https://driftingthrough.com/2016/10/06/an-open-letter-to-donald-trump-from-some-angry-women/
Exactly! This is the man we are dealing with here.

Thank you for sharing that with me. :)

The part that stuck out to me the most:

"We see right through you. We have all known you at some point. Your ways are not unfamiliar to us. We see through you because we’ve been dealing with you our whole lives." I know who he is.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Locker room talk!?

I don't know any men who brag about assaulting women like this. And if I did, they would be immediately removed from my life.

Not acceptable.

So far as I can see, Trump did at least four things in that video.

First, he indulged -- at age 58 or 59 -- in vulgar "locker room talk" during which he spoke of women in grossly demeaning terms. That's unacceptable at any age, but at his age in the video it would seem to bespeak a long term problem objectifying women. One usually doesn't start all of a sudden to objectify women late in life, if one has not been in the habit of doing it all along.

Second, he confessed to attempting to seduce a married woman into committing adultery and he showed no shame, guilt, or remorse for it.

Next, he condoned sexually assaulting women and practically admitted that he himself has done something along those lines more than once.

Last, in my opinion, he displayed extreme arrogance ("Common rules of decency do not apply to me") in speaking the way he did of women. This last is my opinion, but the first three points are simple observation.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I've seen males, at work, on a floor with 30 people in visible sight say out loud (while talking to me), "see that chick over there? I would take her by the waist, bend her over that desk, and f*** the sh** out of her." And me, not offended, using my dry sense of humor, be like, "would you do that before or after your shift ends." And then some response like, "Oh, I'd do it now, but then I'd go to jail afterward." (followed by laughter). Now, granted they're saying this stuff under their breath and with full intent to have no one else, but me, hear it. But I honestly think I've heard something similar in the wide open workplace about 5 times in my life. Take any heterosexual, male co-worker out for a drink and start talking about women you work with, and yeah, I really do think most guys talk like this.

The guys who claim they don't are to me like that one character from "There's Something About Mary" who said he was an architect and passed himself off as having special needs. IOW, they're lying and are happy to be in a friend zone with ladies. How do I know this? Cause, I'm one of those type of guys. Ha. I honestly thought for a long time that being in friend zone was best way to get to know, respect women, perhaps marry them. But all the guys I currently know who are married (all of them) are routinely making comments about other women, and all the nasty stuff they'd like to do to them. If I call them out on this as in "would you really cheat on your wife," it does have them pause, reflect for a few moments and say, "no, I wouldn't." Hard to say 100% which is more accurate, but I do think, as a guy, that most guys like to talk a game that they can't actually follow up on. And clearly there are guys who walk the talk, ya know, playas.
So you're saying that kind of talk/behavior is a-ok? What are you saying?
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
No one does that though. Trump didn't do this.

I recall a female I worked with, who I was in friend zone with, telling me she hates (absolutely hates) the idea of any male calling a woman a b***h. But then went on to tell me if Snoop Dogg caller her a b***h, in 'just the right way' she would do anything he wanted.
How many women do you think would be fine with some strange perv grabbing their crotch and/or trying to kiss them?
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Quite a lot of people would have no problem with it. Whether I do or don't is rather unimportant.

Also its not really about announcing that one is a star. Have you never partied in clubs?
I've been to many clubs. If someone grabbed my crotch or tried to kiss me, they'd be going home without a body part.

I have been kissed without giving my consent by some weirdo client in my office once. He told me he was rich. Is that supposed to be okay?
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
It sounds like you hang out with a lot of lowlifes then.

Indeed he must. I'm no prude. I frequently talk about sex. But I do not demean and objectify women as does Trump. And when I hear someone demean and objectify women, I at the very least break off whatever social relationship I might have with them. I'm just too old to waste my remaining time with such lowlifes.

Oh, and by the way, lowlifes tend to think I'm lying because they believe all men are like them. The way I see it, they only know as friends the sort of scum who would associate with scum.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
So far as I can see, Trump did at least four things in that video.

First, he indulged -- at age 58 or 59 -- in vulgar "locker room talk" during which he spoke of women in grossly demeaning terms. That's unacceptable at any age, but at his age in the video it would seem to bespeak a long term problem objectifying women. One usually doesn't start all of a sudden to objectify women late in life, if one has not been in the habit of doing it all along.

Second, he confessed to attempting to seduce a married woman into committing adultery and he showed no shame, guilt, or remorse for it.

Next, he condoned sexually assaulting women and practically admitted that he himself has done something along those lines more than once.

Last, in my opinion, he displayed extreme arrogance ("Common rules of decency do not apply to me") in speaking the way he did of women. This last is my opinion, but the first three points are simple observation.
You friggin nailed it. :clapping:
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Indeed he must. I'm no prude. I frequently talk about sex. But I do not demean and objectify women as does Trump. And when I hear someone demean and objectify women, I at the very least break off whatever social relationship I might have with them. I'm just too old to waste my remaining time with such lowlifes.

Oh, and by the way, lowlifes tend to think I'm lying because they believe all men are like them. The way I see it, they only know as friends the sort of scum who would associate with scum.
Some people are still living in the 1950's.

 
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