New strike on Syria without congressional approval.

[Shushersbedamned]

Just what is the Russian interest in Syria anyways?

To make a lot of noise so everyone is watching that way.

Hold on to your wallets and car keys, everyone. You'll need them when the **** goes over board.

And of course Russia intented to cause the refugee crisis. Then they blamed it on Europe. Then they got Brexit and tried to get pen to become a president with that innocent refugee crisis. AND IT GOES ON..

 

[Jumi]

Just what is the Russian interest in Syria anyways?

They're allies, like US and Turkey. In general allies are expected to help each other, no? Some of the rebels including IS are wanted people in Russia already from before.

 

[tytlyf]

Bombing runs.

He got permission from the Senate, but not from the House. In fact the House initially said no but he continued on regardless:

Rep. Peter King says Bill Clinton continued Kosovo air campaign after rebuke by House

The timing was right at the height of the Monica Lewinsky mess. Both right and left sources attacked him for that:

When Clinton Lied, Yugoslavia Died
How a President, Distracted by Scandal, Entered Balkan War

That is the problem when a President is rocked by scandal. Anything decisive that he ends up doing is tainted as an attempt to move attention away from the scandal.

So he had some congressional approval before doing the strike? And Trump didn't have any?

 

[Subduction Zone]

So he had some congressional approval before doing the strike? And Trump didn't have any?

It looks that way. It was so long ago I don't remember the details. But it was thought to be a diversionary tactic by many at the time. By the way, I am no fan of Trump, but what he did was perfectly legal as far as presidential powers go.

 

[tytlyf]

It looks that way. It was so long ago I don't remember the details. But it was thought to be a diversionary tactic by many at the time. By the way, I am no fan of Trump, but what he did was perfectly legal as far as presidential powers go.

I'm sure RW media is leaving that part out.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I'm sure RW media is leaving that part out.

It does strike me as odd that lefties, who enjoy so much playing the humanities and welfare card in politics, vocally condemns the Trump presidency along with the UK and France for finally doing something that saves the lives of men woman, and children from being chemically attacked in horrible ways.

Personally I'm glad we're "locked and loaded" if Syria ever dares do that yet again with banned chemical weaponry, the Syrian government is going to get more of the same because the message is clear from the White House the time for games is over.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It does strike me as odd that lefties, who enjoy so much playing the humanities and welfare card in politics, vocally condemns the Trump presidency along with the UK and France for finally doing something that saves the lives of men woman, and children from being chemically attacked in horrible ways.

Yes, because it's never worked. Not unless you consider "making things worse" as a success when you attempt to intervene in such issues in such ways.

 

[idav]

It does strike me as odd that lefties, who enjoy so much playing the humanities and welfare card in politics, vocally condemns the Trump presidency along with the UK and France for finally doing something that saves the lives of men woman, and children from being chemically attacked in horrible ways.

Personally I'm glad we're "locked and loaded" if Syria ever dares do that yet again with banned chemical weaponry, the Syrian government is going to get more of the same because the message is clear from the White House the time for games is over.

Every preeident gets elected by telling the people we will stay out of wars. When push comes to shove the promise is not doable. Trump has constantly condemened governments for Syria action but does the exact same first chance he gets. Not at all suprising but very hypocritical of Trump, also not surprising, regardless if you feel its the "right" thing.

 

[Riders]

It might be legal but not sane. I think he should check into a psych ward.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Just what is the Russian interest in Syria anyways?

A warm water port and pipeline access

Russia: Syria air defence intercepted 71 missiles

 

[tytlyf]

It does strike me as odd that lefties, who enjoy so much playing the humanities and welfare card in politics, vocally condemns the Trump presidency along with the UK and France for finally doing something that saves the lives of men woman, and children from being chemically attacked in horrible ways.

Personally I'm glad we're "locked and loaded" if Syria ever dares do that yet again with banned chemical weaponry, the Syrian government is going to get more of the same because the message is clear from the White House the time for games is over.

There's appropriate ways to do these things. Even the Trump ranted about it during Obama's presidency

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

It does strike me as odd that lefties, who enjoy so much playing the humanities and welfare card in politics, vocally condemns the Trump presidency along with the UK and France for finally doing something that saves the lives of men woman, and children from being chemically attacked in horrible ways.

Personally I'm glad we're "locked and loaded" if Syria ever dares do that yet again with banned chemical weaponry, the Syrian government is going to get more of the same because the message is clear from the White House the time for games is over.

That's a whole lotta begging the question. With evidence, please, show that this missile attack has saved the lives of anyone? As for deterrence, you may recall the Syrians have ALREADY used chemical weapons against civilians targets, and have ALREADY been bombed for it. It apparently didn't stop them last time, why do you think this time is any different?

 

[Twilight Hue]

That's a whole lotta begging the question. With evidence, please, show that this missile attack has saved the lives of anyone? As for deterrence, you may recall the Syrians have ALREADY used chemical weapons against civilians targets, and have ALREADY been bombed for it. It apparently didn't stop them last time, why do you think this time is any different?

That aspect was already addressed this time, it's longer in duration and of a larger scope then in past attacks.

Lives in the future will be saved because I don't think Syria is stupid enough to do another chemical attack given that all their cards are off the table now with International attention focused primarily on them.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It might be legal but not sane. I think he should check into a psych ward.

You think the same of the UK and France's leadership?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

That aspect was already addressed this time, it's longer in duration and of a larger scope then in past attacks.

Lives in the future will be saved because I don't think Syria is stupid enough to do another chemical attack given that all their cards are off the table now with International attention focused primarily on them.

Or it's just making the same wrong choice on a wider scope over a longer duration. The administrations in qestion haven't even presented a plan about what said scope or duration will be let alone any evidence that changing these parameters will affect the outcome the way we want.

'No one would dare after we bomb more' is a pretty damn consistent example of 'has never actually happened that way' in our ME conflict history.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Or it's just making the same wrong choice on a wider scope over a longer duration. The administrations in qestion haven't even presented a plan about what said scope or duration will be let alone any evidence that changing these parameters will affect the outcome the way we want.

'No one would dare after we bomb more' is a pretty damn consistent example of 'has never actually happened that way' in our ME conflict history.

Time will tell.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

That aspect was already addressed this time, it's longer in duration and of a larger scope then in past attacks.

Lives in the future will be saved because I don't think Syria is stupid enough to do another chemical attack given that all their cards are off the table now with International attention focused primarily on them.

Where's your evidence for these claims?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Time will tell.

Here's a wild idea... maybe we could look to Middle East precedent to get some idea of what is likely to happen next?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Time will tell.

I'd rather transparency and evaluation through proper channels tell than the unintended consequence of jumping the gun. You know, like Trump used to.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It does strike me as odd that lefties, who enjoy so much playing the humanities and welfare card in politics, vocally condemns the Trump presidency along with the UK and France for finally doing something that saves the lives of men woman, and children from being chemically attacked in horrible ways.

Personally I'm glad we're "locked and loaded" if Syria ever dares do that yet again with banned chemical weaponry, the Syrian government is going to get more of the same because the message is clear from the White House the time for games is over.

If one does the right thing for the wrong reasons does it still count?