Nine Pieces Of Evidence That Confirm The Historical Accuracy Of The Bible

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You can shop for a religion and there are too many to choose from.
A person can have as many as he could possibly have and still won't get to know the truth.
That is my narration

I could subject my faith to an acid test because the truth is good.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 New International Version (NIV)
but test them all; hold on to what is good,

That is how you will be able to know what is good and what is a lie.
It is like shopping for the genuine thing
some will sell you a fake and then you will be had
That is why people should examine, test, ask and evaluate
It could take weeks, months or even years before you could conclude

Jesus likened the search in two parables:

Matthew 13:44-46 New International Version (NIV)
“The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field.

“Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls. When he found one of great value, he went away and sold everything he had and bought it.

But beware - treasures like pearls have fake ones too.

That is why like pearls, religious beliefs should be tested
Faith of people too are tested even by fire.

Fine, you test your religion. Let's see if you are doing it properly.

What reasonable test could show your beliefs to be wrong?

 

[74x12]

Apparently we are better than your god, for there are many of us who are better than that, and do not resort to physical punishment or the death sentence. There are those of us who are more humane and patient than your god, and instead of demanding death we ask those your god condemned what is wrong with them and hear them out. We'd rather see them shed tears as their pains are addressed and resolved, rather than see their blood shed because we care not about our fellow human.

By whose objective morality do you affirm to be better than an all powerful God?

Can't you see the shortsightedness of such a pov?

God is stronger than anything and you say He is not fair? How can He not be just when He has weighed everything that exists --both physical and metaphysical-- in the balances?

Logically, your limited intellect must be wrong and God's infinite intellect must be correct. Assuming God is real. (Which He is.)

 

[74x12]

Quoting the Bible out of context won't help you either. Now it appears that you are saying one has to be a fool to believe it. That does not help your case.

That's not what the verse means. It means for people to unlearn all the nonsense they learned from the worldly wisdom. So they can learn God's wisdom.

For example the world teaches us pride is good. God says it's wrong. Who to listen to?

 

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That's not what the verse means. It means for people to unlearn all the nonsense they learned from the worldly wisdom. So they can learn God's wisdom.

For example the world teaches us pride is good. God says it's wrong. Who to listen to?

You keep repeating an error. Just because something is in the Bible does not mean that "Gods says so". And pride can be a good thing. It can be a bad thing. I would not listen to a vague and overly simplistic book that has been shown to be wrong countless times.

 

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By whose objective morality do you affirm to be better than an all powerful God?

Can't you see the shortsightedness of such a pov?

God is stronger than anything and you say He is not fair? How can He not be just when He has weighed everything that exists --both physical and metaphysical-- in the balances?

Logically, your limited intellect must be wrong and God's infinite intellect must be correct. Assuming God is real. (Which He is.)

Please, never accuse others of shortsightedness. My morals are better than the morals of the Bible. That is one of the ways that we know the Bible is the writings of man and not that of God. It gets so much wrong that it is hard to see how anyone can believe it.

Just think, a God that can take time to order his followers not to wear plaid (not necessarily a bad order in itself) can't take the time to tell them not to own other people, but sanctions it instead. Is that a moral God?

 

[74x12]

You keep repeating an error. Just because something is in the Bible does not mean that "Gods says so". And pride can be a good thing. It can be a bad thing. I would not listen to a vague and overly simplistic book that has been shown to be wrong countless times.

God told me every bit of His Word is true.

What could you know? You're only dust and ashes ... That's what we are. Carbon based life forms ... Made in the image of God; but physically no better than the animals around us.

Please, never accuse others of shortsightedness. My morals are better than the morals of the Bible. That is one of the ways that we know the Bible is the writings of man and not that of God. It gets so much wrong that it is hard to see how anyone can believe it.

Just think, a God that can take time to order his followers not to wear plaid (not necessarily a bad order in itself) can't take the time to tell them not to own other people, but sanctions it instead. Is that a moral God?

Shortsighted is the perfect word. Because you're hasty and judge things before the time. And you don't see what will be revealed.

How can your intellect compare to the infinite Mind? Could you make even one star? Or a planet? Maybe in a long time mankind will do this together. But you alone? You probably couldn't make a toaster oven if someone dropped you on an uninhabited island!

 

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God told me every bit of His Word is true.

What could you know? You're only dust and ashes ... That's what we are. Carbon based life forms ... Made in the image of God; but physically no better than the animals around us.

Shortsighted is the perfect word. Because you're hasty and judge things before the time. And you don't see what will be revealed.

How can your intellect compare to the infinite Mind? Could you make even one star? Or a planet? Maybe in a long time mankind will do this together. But you alone? You probably couldn't make a toaster oven if someone dropped you on an uninhabited island!

Then you are claiming that God is a liar. If he actually told you that it was true then he admitted to being a liar since he would have had to dishonestly cover up much of his evil work. You can't have it both ways. If the Flood occurred for example then God lied since he made it look like no flood ever occurred.

And how can God's mind be infinite? If that is the case he was responsible for the screw up in his creation. Once again you can't have it both ways. According to you, if you reason logically and consistently, God was responsible for Adam and Eve eating the Apple. He screwed the pooch big time according to the myth.

Ain't logic a female dog that has had puppies?

 

[MJFlores]

How about people who care about believing true things, based on good evidence?

That is a must.
The truth must be based on evidence.
If there is no evidence, then there is no truth.
Because....

Since we are back on the evidence that confirm the historical accuracy of the Bible
Let me cite a bible verse and compare it with a historical fact.

Revelation 6:7-8 New International Version (NIV)
When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.



When did this happen?

The Black Death, also known as the Great Plague, the Black Plague, or the Plague, was one of the most devastating pandemics in human history, resulting in the deaths of an estimated 75 to 200 million people in Eurasia and peaking in Europe from 1347 to 1351. [Black Death - Wikipedia]

Recap
1st seal - white horse - Nicene Christianity becomes a state religion 380 AD
2nd seal - red horse - Crusade expeditions occurred between 1096 and 1291 AD
3rd seal - black horse - Great Famine in Europe 1315–1317
4rth seal - pale horse - Black Death 1347-1351

Chronologically arranged as it happened from first to fourth
Historical evidence
from the Bible

 

[MJFlores]

Fine, you test your religion. Let's see if you are doing it properly.

What reasonable test could show your beliefs to be wrong?

The reasonable test that could show my belief is wrong would be something that I believe that runs contrary to the Bible.

For example the bible would say:

1 Corinthians 10:14 New International Version (NIV)
Therefore, my dear friends, flee from idolatry.

And I join this:

Then my beliefs are wrong.

 

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That is a must.
The truth must be based on evidence.
If there is no evidence, then there is no truth.
Because....
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Since we are back on the evidence that confirm the historical accuracy of the Bible
Let me cite a bible verse and compare it with a historical fact.

Revelation 6:7-8 New International Version (NIV)
When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.

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When did this happen?

The Black Death, also known as the Great Plague, the Black Plague, or the Plague, was one of the most devastating pandemics in human history, resulting in the deaths of an estimated 75 to 200 million people in Eurasia and peaking in Europe from 1347 to 1351. [Black Death - Wikipedia]

Recap
1st seal - white horse - Nicene Christianity becomes a state religion 380 AD
2nd seal - red horse - Crusade expeditions occurred between 1096 and 1291 AD
3rd seal - black horse - Great Famine in Europe 1315–1317
4rth seal - pale horse - Black Death 1347-1351

Chronologically arranged as it happened from first to fourth
Historical evidence
from the Bible

Its fascinating that you would blow off the terrible suffering, death, famine, cannibalism and plague in 70 AD Jerusalem for pie in the sky from a Scofield heretic.

 

[MJFlores]

Its fascinating that you would blow off the terrible suffering, death, famine, cannibalism and plague in 70 AD Jerusalem for pie in the sky from a Scofield heretic.

Didn't mention 70 AD Jerusalem there
It's the Black Plague
which happened much much later 1347-1351

 

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Didn't mention 70 AD Jerusalem there

It's the Black Plague
which happened much much later 1347-1351

The Black Plague in Europe had nothing to do with Revelation.

The writings of John Darby greatly influenced Cyrus Scofield (1843-1921) who incorporated this doctrine in the notes of his Scofield Reference Bible, first published by Oxford University Press in 1909. One million copies were printed by 1930, firmly establishing this Futurist interpretation in the Bible schools and denominations of the United States in the 20th Century.

 

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The reasonable test that could show my belief is wrong would be something that I believe that runs contrary to the Bible.

For example the bible would say:

1 Corinthians 10:14 New International Version (NIV)
Therefore, my dear friends, flee from idolatry.

And I join this:

Then my beliefs are wrong.

Sorry, that makes no sense as written. Try to be a bit more descriptive. And please do not include any nonsense in your post. Bogus videos are only a distraction.
Once again what reasonable test would make show your beliefs to be false. A personal failure of yours does not count as a reasonable test. To be a reasonable test anyone would be able to do it, not just you.

 

[74x12]

Then you are claiming that God is a liar. If he actually told you that it was true then he admitted to being a liar since he would have had to dishonestly cover up much of his evil work. You can't have it both ways. If the Flood occurred for example then God lied since he made it look like no flood ever occurred.

And how can God's mind be infinite? If that is the case he was responsible for the screw up in his creation. Once again you can't have it both ways. According to you, if you reason logically and consistently, God was responsible for Adam and Eve eating the Apple. He screwed the pooch big time according to the myth.

Ain't logic a female dog that has had puppies?

Can the vase refuse to hold flowers? Does the vase reply against it's maker? "I will not hold flowers for you!" Certainly not.

So God has power over the clay to make everyone as He desires. God made light and God made darkness. The good days of our life and the evil days. The accomplishments and the disappointments are from God. The wise will think about it and will consider what they need to do. So, for me this question is true reason and this is true logic. What does God require of me? (Job 28:28)

What if God made everything to bring all questions to answers and to resolve all doubts? To answer all disputes? To make every thing good known and to make all that is evil also known? So that there could be eternal peace?

 

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Can the vase refuse to hold flowers? Does the vase reply against it's maker? "I will not hold flowers for you!" Certainly not.

So God has power over the clay to make everyone as He desires. God made light and God made darkness. The good days of our life and the evil days. The accomplishments and the disappointments are from God. The wise will think about it and will consider what they need to do. So, for me this question is true reason and this is true logic. What does God require of me? (Job 28:28)

What if God made everything to bring all questions to answers and to resolve all doubts? To answer all disputes? To make every thing good known and to make all that is evil also known? So that there could be eternal peace?

Please, avoid nonsensical arguments.

The "God of the Bible" is an immoral being. There is no doubt about that, especially the Old Testament version. You have not been able to argue against that at all. The Bible is a weapon against you in this case. How would you argue for an immoral god that advocates for slavery while saying that plaid and camarones con tocino are banned (that alone refutes his existence).

 

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Please, avoid nonsensical arguments.

The "God of the Bible" is an immoral being. There is no doubt about that, especially the Old Testament version. You have not been able to argue against that at all. The Bible is a weapon against you in this case. How would you argue for an immoral god that advocates for slavery while saying that plaid and camarones con tocino are banned (that alone refutes his existence).

Bringing up ritual laws like the prohibition against mixing different fibers in cloth is not evidence that God does not exist. The laws like these were there to teach people spiritual typologies.

As I've explained before on the topic of slavery. It's not that I believe God was ever happy about it; just like He was not happy with divorce but allowed it for the time. (Matthew 19:8) The Israelites were an unregenerate people. Not filled with the holy Spirit. (Numbers 11:29) They did not really care for spiritual things. They wanted to be wealthy, powerful people in the world. This in the bronze age, meant having slaves. The Law was there to bring them closer to God; but they were not prepared for some kind of anti-slavery revolution. Just read the Iliad for example to see bronze age views on slavery. War captives = slaves. The Law in the Bible is very "progressive" compared to Hammurabi's code for example; which unabashedly gives legal advantages to rich people.

You still haven't refuted my first point. How can you --who are finite-- accuse God when He is infinite in knowledge and power? You know more than God?

Do you admit you probably couldn't make a toaster oven on an uninhabited island without bringing equipment? Whereas God made the universe?

 

[MJFlores]

Sorry, that makes no sense as written. Try to be a bit more descriptive. And please do not include any nonsense in your post. Bogus videos are only a distraction.
Once again what reasonable test would make show your beliefs to be false. A personal failure of yours does not count as a reasonable test. To be a reasonable test anyone would be able to do it, not just you.

A reasonable test anyone would be able to do it?

If one does not conform with sound doctrine, then that makes one's belief is false.

1 Timothy 1:9-11 New International Version (NIV)
We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.


I think you are included here.

 

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A reasonable test anyone would be able to do it?

If one does not conform with sound doctrine, then that makes one's belief is false.

1 Timothy 1:9-11 New International Version (NIV)
We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.


I think you are included here.

You would be included even more so than I am. After all, even though I do not believe in God I do not call him a liar.

Now back to your test. If it is a valid test it would not matter who did it. Can you design a proper test for your God?

 

[MJFlores]

The Black Plague in Europe had nothing to do with Revelation.

The writings of John Darby greatly influenced Cyrus Scofield (1843-1921) who incorporated this doctrine in the notes of his Scofield Reference Bible, first published by Oxford University Press in 1909. One million copies were printed by 1930, firmly establishing this Futurist interpretation in the Bible schools and denominations of the United States in the 20th Century.

Maybe he is attuned to the bible and history.

The Black Death was a significant event in the history of man. [Deaths: 75–200 million; 30–60% of population]
List of epidemics - Wikipedia

Beyond the shadow of a doubt, this event was recorded in the bible [symbolizes it as the fourth seal / black horse] during apostle John's time at Patmos [before 100 AD]

 

[MJFlores]

You would be included even more so than I am. After all, even though I do not believe in God I do not call him a liar.

Now back to your test. If it is a valid test it would not matter who did it. Can you design a proper test for your God?

The period of testing is over
Someone already requested ahead of you