No more immigrants please!

[nnmartin]

yet more neo-liberal lies.

Immigration 'not linked to jobless' - Yahoo!

UK is over-run with immigrants these days - very hard to get a job whether qualified or not - even cleaning the toilets at McDonalds.

another lie posted here in that the amount of immigrants has no effect whatsoever on the amount on unemployment.

I mean, come on! How stupid do you have to be to buy that one!

More immigrants means lower wages thus more benefits for the rich.

About time they kicked Cameron out and banned any more immigration to the UK plus bring forward an immigrant tax.

Mass riots in the UK last year by disaffected youth - fairly obvious all this had a lot to do with it.

any views?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

any views?

The answer is relatively simple:

For every immigrant you let into the country, kick out a pathetic xenophobic bigot.​

 

[angellous_evangellous]

The answer is relatively simple:

For every immigrant you let into the country, kick out a pathetic xenophobic bigot.​

(just be sure that the immigrant is a pathetic ethnocentric bigot)

 

[nnmartin]

The answer is relatively simple:

For every immigrant you let into the country, kick out a pathetic xenophobic bigot.​

no problems there - they've already kicked me out!

surplus to requirements unfortunately.....

still, I feel sorry for the ones left behind.

The ones who cannot get a job now, even with college degree because the country is over-run with freeloaders and bourgoisie liberals from abroad.

 

[Quintessence]

Or just address the root of the problem, which is probably human overpopulation.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

no problems there - they've already kicked me out!

IOW, you're an immigrant, complaining about immigration. :sarcastic

 

[not nom]

The answer is relatively simple:

For every immigrant you let into the country, kick out a pathetic xenophobic bigot.​

I was going to post just that... germany would be a boring, stupid country without immigrants.

and as a rule of thumb, the people who think foreigners take away their jobs, are not that bright, and don't need a job but a helmet.

 

[nnmartin]

IOW, you're an immigrant, complaining about immigration. :sarcastic

yup!

can't see anything wrong with that.

It's not a related issue.

 

[nnmartin]

and as a rule of thumb, the people who think foreigners take away their jobs, are not that bright, and don't need a job but a helmet.

not true.

Actually , you would be hard pressed to find any sort of job in the UK now whether with helmet, mop, spade or even Masters Degree.

 

[not nom]

so?

if anything is taking jobs away from people, it's robots and software, and greed in general. there is more debt on the planet than there is money to pay it with, etc. you cannot unsink the titanic by re-arranging deck chairs, and blaming other little people for what your owners do to all of you, that's just daft. it's expected, and it's welcomed by your owners, but it's daft.

 

[nnmartin]

a lot of truth in that but I'm not actually blaming the 'little people' here - far from it - I am blaming the powers that be as you have correctly highlighted.

If the opportunity to get a job abroad is out there and it's better for you to do that then, yes, commonsense dictates you should move.

However it is also up to those in charge to manage this situation effectively which has not been the case - it has just pandered to out of control greed to keep wages low and thus maintain the profits of the rich.

So , a tight cap needs to be put on any future immigration , some recent arrivals should be sent back home and businesses thriving off this new form of human trafficking should be taxed out of the loop.

so if you want to open your fifth sandwich shop you can, but you have to employ local workers, pay the higher tax rate or preferably just clear off.

 

[lunakilo]

Or just address the root of the problem, which is probably human overpopulation.

What are you suggesting?
Should we kill a lot of people?

 

[cablescavenger]

yet more neo-liberal lies.

Immigration 'not linked to jobless' - Yahoo!

UK is over-run with immigrants these days - very hard to get a job whether qualified or not - even cleaning the toilets at McDonalds.

another lie posted here in that the amount of immigrants has no effect whatsoever on the amount on unemployment.

I mean, come on! How stupid do you have to be to buy that one!

More immigrants means lower wages thus more benefits for the rich.

About time they kicked Cameron out and banned any more immigration to the UK plus bring forward an immigrant tax.

Mass riots in the UK last year by disaffected youth - fairly obvious all this had a lot to do with it.

any views?

Are you a British Citizen then?
No need to answer that, I have just noticed you are not, but you are mistaken, Immigration is not the reason there is a lack of jobs in the UK.

To understand why the UK is suffering requires some level of understanding on how economies work. A lot of people do not have this understanding, so they are in effect ignorant of the causes until they are informed in a way they can understand. Often the explanation they receive is discriminatory on some level.

If you look throughout history when times are hard and a nations economy suffers you will find that on occasion unscrupulous political parties will marginalise parts of the population in an attempt to gain support from the not so brights.

 

[Mcshane22]

What are you suggesting?
Should we kill a lot of people?

The laws of nature will resolve this issue wether we like it or not. When we exceed our carrying capacity, starvation and disiese will bring us to a sustainable population. I don't believe we have reached our carrying capacity but with our medical sciences people live longer, infant mortality has declined considerably. With our increase in food supply we also are increasing our population. We have accelerated the process and we think we can defy the laws of nature which no thing is above, unless your belief is in a external creator who will save us from our self destruction. As for me I'll keep a mask and some Lysol handy for the next super bug

 

[Mcshane22]

We have enough fertile land on this earth to sustain the current population; however because of our concept of ownership of land denies others from having a sustainable life. There was a short story about a man who went west to be a mountain man and he came upon a native tribe. He asked how much land he could have to homestead on. The chief told him he could have as much land as he could walk in a circle in one day. His greed led him to over exhaustion and death so the chief gave him a 2' by 6' plot of land.

 

[Valjean]

We do not have enough 'fertile land' to sustain the non human species on the planet, though. Do you propose destroying the Natural World and establishing nothing but factory farms and mega-cities?

We're already beyond the carrying capacity of the planet. All Natural systems are in decline and with them Earth's carrying capacity itself.

No, I don't propose killing a bunch of people. We're already doing that with climate change, wars for resources, &c.
We need to explore options for voluntary family size reduction.

 

[Mcshane22]

We do not have enough 'fertile land' to sustain the non human species on the planet, though. Do you propose destroying the Natural World and establishing nothing but factory farms and mega-cities?

We're already beyond the carrying capacity of the planet. All Natural systems are in decline and with them Earth's carrying capacity itself.

No, I don't propose killing a bunch of people. We're already doing that with climate change, wars for resources, &c.
We need to explore options for voluntary family size reduction.

I do not belive in the idea that this planet was made for purely human use. You are very correct that we are the cause of animal and native plants destruction. There is enough land for both humans and animals can be sustain as long as we live and let live by living symbiotic with nature. I guess your misunderstanding of my statement was I failed to mention we can't keep the status qou and sustain life

Me and my wife made the volunteer choice of only 1 child and as long as its by volunteering not forced.

 

[sandandfoam]

I think immigration improves a country and drives it forward.
The more the merrier as far as I'm concerned.

 

[lunakilo]

We do not have enough 'fertile land' to sustain the non human species on the planet, though. Do you propose destroying the Natural World and establishing nothing but factory farms and mega-cities?

We're already beyond the carrying capacity of the planet. All Natural systems are in decline and with them Earth's carrying capacity itself.

No, I don't propose killing a bunch of people. We're already doing that with climate change, wars for resources, &c.
We need to explore options for voluntary family size reduction.

Well we are not killing people as fast as they are being produced.
Population is still rising.

And you are right overpopulation will eventually fix it self.
I just don't like the suffering which is build into this 'solution'.

 

[Viker]

Hello Mr. Pot. Have you seen Mr. Kettle around lately?

Anyway, what is an immigrant? This is the 21st century. Everyone is an immigrant by now, still people whine too much and blame others for their own lack of industriousness and creativity. Sure, a lot of people are out of work, a lot of them are too picky to take "just any job". So why shouldn't immigrants fill in for these elitists and keep the economy running? Immigrants may actually be unsung heroes. They are likely paying for and making possible many of those unemployment benefits, makes many others seem ungrateful, whiny and dependent, i.e. spoiled.