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Noah's Arc and the Flood?

cladking

Well-Known Member
You were misinformed. Just because later kings tried to make some sort of little replica as best they could recall does not mean the tower was just a ziggurat.




You making this up?

"The Tower of Babel incident occurred around 4,200 years ago—about 100 years after the Flood but before Abraham was born, This was before ancient Egypt, Greece, and other early civilizations. These places couldn’t have begun until after people left Babel to establish these other civilizations."
In What Time Period Was The Tower Of Babel Built In?
No. In fact, that was likely when literacy or writing began! Before that, I have not yet seen proof there were any written words. The early states even used picture words to try and communicate.



Your dates are belief-based and wrong.


You are correct that the time of Babel is when recorded history began. There is virtually no writing from earlier and virtually nothing can be called "historical". "Science" offers no hypothesis for why history began 1200 years after the advent of writing. Everything makes perfect sense when you have all the answers and they certainly have all the answers.

I usually date the "tower of babel" event a little later so as to coincide with the advent of history but your date is quite plausible.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
You are correct that the time of Babel is when recorded history began. There is virtually no writing from earlier and virtually nothing can be called "historical". "Science" offers no hypothesis for why history began 1200 years after the advent of writing. Everything makes perfect sense when you have all the answers and they certainly have all the answers.

I usually date the "tower of babel" event a little later so as to coincide with the advent of history but your date is quite plausible.

Watchtowers and signal towers were all over the ME. Some are still standing. Babylon had written language, sailboats and irrigation by 3,000 BC.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Not true. It is based on the same physics having always existed in earth history. In other words, it is based on the present nature.

Why are deep Earth valleys filled up with water if there is no evidence of a world flood.

And you would have to realize fresh water would not own the marine life to claim.....and I can study the rocks to prove it....for it was fresh water flooding from space, not salted water.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Why are deep Earth valleys filled up with water if there is no evidence of a world flood.

And you would have to realize fresh water would not own the marine life to claim.....and I can study the rocks to prove it....for it was fresh water flooding from space, not salted water.

The Ark information did say that the tops of the mountain peaks ^ pyramid theory vision story was above the water line.....so how big are mountains....are they just what is sitting on the ground, or what began from under the water?
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Your unsupportable religious dream dates are subjective beliefs.
We seem to need a crowbar to pry you from your belief based dream dates!

In other words not in this present nature. No news there!

Still waiting for coherent response instead acrid insult shotgun.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
So??

The written record was not the first record. This is news? Just because the pagan peoples felt a need to write records does not mean God's people had to have em!
We had the record, just not (apparently, at least that was found yet) a written record!

Arguing from ignorance is not a coherent response. There is no evidence that the Hebrew written existed before ~100 BCE, and at that in a primitive form evolved from a Canannite dialect.
 

cladking

Well-Known Member
Babylon had written language, sailboats and irrigation by 3,000 BC.

Why don't you tell us some of this history then?

Don't tell me what archaeologists say because I don't believe them. Give me some history IN THEIR OWN WORDS.

Growing numbers of people don't even believe any of the ancient language(s) have been translated at all so if any history exists in their own words (it doesn't) then it might well be mistranslated.
 

dad

Undefeated
You are correct that the time of Babel is when recorded history began. There is virtually no writing from earlier and virtually nothing can be called "historical". "Science" offers no hypothesis for why history began 1200 years after the advent of writing. Everything makes perfect sense when you have all the answers and they certainly have all the answers.

I usually date the "tower of babel" event a little later so as to coincide with the advent of history but your date is quite plausible.

With the whole world communicating perfectly, perhaps there was little or no need for writing. That would also make sense, that Egypt had to resort to pictures to communicate with others.
It also makes sense that they were very concerned with death and dying and disposing of remains by burial. If life spans suddenly changed drastically, there would be a lot of people dying. (possibly if man never used to be able to leave remains due to very rapid decomposition in nature in that day, and then suddenly there were dead bodies just staying there and rotting, that would fit also)
 

dad

Undefeated
Why are deep Earth valleys filled up with water if there is no evidence of a world flood.
Lots of water here still. That could go toward being evidence also. Science doesn't even know how it got here!
And you would have to realize fresh water would not own the marine life to claim.....and I can study the rocks to prove it....for it was fresh water flooding from space, not salted water.
Great, so prove it? Not that I care, because in the different nature of the past, there was rapid adapting/evolving, so fish could have adapted from one to the other fast. (even today some salmon still adapt from one to the other)
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Why do males today argue over whether the flood occurred?

Is it because they claim that science is safe, when science studied I can copy natural.

Not I own natural and therefore am safe...which is the correct mind reasoning.

He says I will copy natural, as what he says is a historic reaction. Says self is safe for first he studied VISION. In that history and in that VISION the flood no male or animal even existed.

Why science argues the whole concept, flood involved in pyramid/temple science.

So if a male today claims I own a rational mind, you would ask, in science where did the concept science first be established as a male claiming to COPY?

A male argues which is the statement science, I cannot copy that FLOOD....why he argues with his own spirit, male human everyday.

The history original water flood, was fresh water.....in modern times the water is salted.

In modern times the FLOOD is an evaporated Earth water history.

So then he says.....after the ICE AGE....archaeology says....pyramid science was when Earth was its Nature original life and a variation to what Earth became.

Science discusses stories as a whole science journey and concept, which includes God, O the Earth stone body dropping into the colder space well...to maintain cold heavenly gases.

So that heated space remained above the head of the Earth body...and not flowing through it. Claiming, for that ancient cold gas body once owned by Earth was burnt out by extra radiation mass...expanded and no longer exists.

As a rational male status....and then says and the SACRED ICE, being the December holy re birth ICE sacrifice kept life on Earth surviving.

How the science concept was taught.

Who would rationally in science today really have believed that ICE would be melting as a scientist?

Previous male argument already told you it would....the same old story, males egotism, will not listen.

'>2 Thessalonians 2:3


Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,

The theme which says if the scientists do not believe in the ancient Jesus Christ event....already scientifically proven, that the Earth atmosphere had been placed into an ancient irradiation attack that had not cooled....and evolution in space is natural cooling. Year 2012 was stated to be the arrival of the Saviour cooling spatial gas realization....after many years of Earth in attack/life sacrifice and suffering.

When a human preaches O STONE as a God reflection gave human beings in mind vision, a science cause, pyramid machine a vision of self in feed back due to environmental irradiation....then it did. So we are living proof that we are the ONLY owners of God O the Nature and human life.

Not any alien. Aliens are seen in vision after nuclear holy dust chemicals get converted and we are then irradiated attacked. Expansion of the vision from the power plant model...put new enlarged cloud designs in the cloud vision for the science psyche to study new concepts. How design from destruction was mind notified....it was never mind notification of creation, for creation is in physical mass not in VISION.

NOUN
  1. the abandonment or renunciation of a religious or political belief or principle.
    "the execution of their leader for apostasy brought widespread criticism"
    synonyms:
    renunciation of belief · abandonment of belief · recantation · treachery · perfidy · faithlessness · disloyalty · betrayal · defection · desertion · heresy · tergiversation · 
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Lots of water here still. That could go toward being evidence also. Science doesn't even know how it got here!
Great, so prove it? Not that I care, because in the different nature of the past, there was rapid adapting/evolving, so fish could have adapted from one to the other fast. (even today some salmon still adapt from one to the other)

Here's Why Salt Melts Ice

Fresh water glaciers/ice mountains, fresh water evaporation/instant freeze.

Flood, fresh water melts as ancient ICE......but then eventually re freezes over a time period of Earth cooling from dropping deeper into colder space.

Salted ICE, not original ICE AGE natural water therefore melts faster...proving that ancient history had changed the ICE.

AI which is a male anima voiced speaker said to me that when space is irradiated heated expanded by a historic machine held constant....then deep space forced to interact with a large mass evolving of irradiation heat then begins to suck the heated creation deeper into its depths.

How Earth was saved before...for AI told me this story.

Einstein said in his AI recorded memory, sharing of memories owned by science that a constant in science is held mass...for it remains constant.

Artificial constants is to own/control a machine and remove natural mass constantly...why he said he was wrong, as a male and as a scientist.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Still waiting for you to prove a same state past existed rather than peppering us with models that assume it was.

The evidence I gave concerning lamella did just that documenting a uniform history and time line tens of thousands of years in the past. This is not models it is based on 'objective observable evidence.'
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Lots of water here still. That could go toward being evidence also. Science doesn't even know how it got here!
Great, so prove it? Not that I care, because in the different nature of the past, there was rapid adapting/evolving, so fish could have adapted from one to the other fast. (even today some salmon still adapt from one to the other)
It could. But I doubt it. Don't you wish that you understood the concept of evidence?

i am still willing to help you out.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
The evidence I gave concerning lamella did just that documenting a uniform history and time line tens of thousands of years in the past. This is not models it is based on 'objective observable evidence.'
dad does not do evidence, unfortunately. I will sometimes volunteer evidence but he lost the right to demand any from me.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Why are deep Earth valleys filled up with water if there is no evidence of a world flood.

And you would have to realize fresh water would not own the marine life to claim.....and I can study the rocks to prove it....for it was fresh water flooding from space, not salted water.

For the love of your God please study science just a little bit....

What would happen if you pour water into space? | Cool Cosmos

This is why there is no water canopy or any of the other multitudes of mythological craziness that regularly comes across the table from the religious faucet.
 
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