Noah's Ark and Other Survivors

[suzy smith]

If he were to give you 100% evidence of his existence, there would be no need for Faith.

There is no need for faith!
In fact faith in a God is not a good thing. Its a bad thing. It is instrumental in getting people believe in things without evidence, without logic, and without proof.

 

[IHaveTheGift]

There is no need for faith!
In fact faith in a God is not a good thing. Its a bad thing. It is instrumental in getting people believe in things without evidence, without logic, and without proof.

Glad you feel that way.
My God tells me that love is good, hate is bad.
Sounds pretty logical and consistent with what Jesus told everyone back then that then killed him.

Atheists that say stuff like you just did, really worry me.
You cant back up anything you say and full of hot air it seems.
No offense.

 

[outhouse]

My God tells me that love is good, hate is bad.

Your own conscious does not?

Atheists that say stuff like you just did, really worry me.

Whether you like it ot not, faith can be dangerous.

 

[nazz]

There is no need for faith!
In fact faith in a God is not a good thing. Its a bad thing. It is instrumental in getting people believe in things without evidence, without logic, and without proof.

yada, yada, yada

I used to try to intelligently respond to these kinds of comments but it doesn't seem worth the trouble anymore.

 

[IHaveTheGift]

Your own conscious does not?

strawman

Whether you like it ot not, faith can be dangerous.

So can lots of stuff, its not the faith that is dangerous, its man that is dangerous, so whats your point?
Guns can be dangerous
Having the position of power can be dangerous for others beneath you.
Even going for a swim can be dangerous.
..........

yada, yada, yada

I used to try to intelligently respond to these kinds of comments but it doesn't seem worth the trouble anymore.

I am hoping to have an intellectual convo here, I seem to have to think for others, to have one.
At least they can do is try...

 

[nazz]

I am hoping to have an intellectual convo here, I seem to have to think for others, to have one.
At least they can do is try...

There are plenty of people with which this is possible here. Just stay away from the extreme thinkers. That's my advice.

 

[AmbiguousGuy]

There are plenty of people with which this is possible here. Just stay away from the extreme thinkers. That's my advice.

Extreme thinkers are scary, that's true, but so are dragons. I think the brave will always engage both. Some will even enter their caves to seek them out.

There are still heroes in the world.

 

[IHaveTheGift]

There are plenty of people with which this is possible here. Just stay away from the extreme thinkers. That's my advice.

Seriously, do some Atheists actually think their petty complaints mean anything?
I will admit, I am not perfect, but damn, I don't waste huge chunks of my life complaining about everyone elses beliefs or lack of.
If find this humorous, then beat me like a red headed step child :yes:

The most ironic thing about some of them, is they actually come off like they know the minds of billions of people, hell I barely even know what is best for my best friend, he can pretty much figure that out for himself, and when he needs advice, he knows how to ask. :yes:

 

[outhouse]

strawman

How so?

You can think for yourself correct?

 

[IHaveTheGift]

How so?

You can think for yourself correct?

Do you know what a strawman is?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Seriously, do some Atheists actually think their petty complaints mean anything?
I will admit, I am not perfect, but damn, I don't waste huge chunks of my life complaining about everyone elses beliefs or lack of.

What the hell do you think you're doing?

 

[outhouse]

Do you know what a strawman is?

Does not have anything to do with your ability to make personal decisions, and claiming god made them for you.

 

[IHaveTheGift]

What the hell do you think you're doing?

defending myself, and finding humor in it, do you see me attacking their stance on atheism?
Nope, this thread was about Noahs ark, and a few atheists begin to attach and argue over my belief in God, yes I could ignore them.
Do you see me going to the atheists threads and attacking their positions and posts about their beliefs?

 

[AmbiguousGuy]

defending myself, and finding humor in it, do you see me attacking their stance on atheism?
Nope, this thread was about Noahs ark, and a few atheists begin to attach and argue over my belief in God, yes I could ignore them.
Do you see me going to the atheists threads and attacking their positions and posts about their beliefs?

If you think this is a 'Christian thread' or even a 'literal-Flood-Story' thread, you're mistaken. We debate things here.

Not every thread will contain messages which you find happy for your beliefs.

 

[IHaveTheGift]

Does not have anything to do with your ability to make personal decisions, and claiming god made them for you.

That is a strawman bro.
I am not arguing with someone who doesn't even realize that a strawman is not a valid point or argument to make.

Let me dumb it down for you, if I couldn't think for myself, how did I manage to believe in God on my own and see that what Jesus stood for is what i do too and find merit in him being genuine ?
Seriously?
In short, because I agree with Jesus, that concludes I cant think for myself?

Do you believe me if I say there is an Atlantic Ocean?

For not being able to think for myself, I am doing a pretty good job
:yes:

If you think this is a 'Christian thread' or even a 'literal-Flood-Story' thread, you're mistaken. We debate things here.

Not every thread will contain messages which you find happy for your beliefs.

I think some atheists here are humorous with their attempts to "prove" they have something important they must parrot constantly.
Nothing could make me more happy then to be here

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Nope, this thread was about Noahs ark, and a few atheists begin to attach and argue over my belief in God, yes I could ignore them.

Interesting and perhaps symptomatic sentence structure.

 

[IHaveTheGift]

But I bore easy...
Good luck with the idea that you know more then what I know about myself.

If you wish to give advice or such, at least get to know a person before trying to attack their person or what it is you think you're doing.

"cant think for myself because I agree with Jesus"

"ill take strawmanning for 200 Alex :sarcastic"

 

[suzy smith]

Atheists that say stuff like you just did, really worry me.
You cant back up anything you say and full of hot air it seems.
No offense.

People that believe in the supernatural worry me a little too....but not a lot.
And you say we atheists can't back anything up!

No offence taken

 

[AmbiguousGuy]

I think some atheists here are humorous with their attempts to "prove" they have something important they must parrot constantly.

Maybe after you've been here awhile, you'll begin to see that the world isn't divided into theists and atheists.

 

[work in progress]

Huh? you're saying a whole lot of nothing.
Quoting one guy doesn't really mean too much now does it?

At least I cited one source; what have you provided aside from your own musings about the hiddenness of God?

Who is he, speaker for the world?

Look him up! He has a Wikipedia page and a page in the online Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy The name is spelled: Kierkegaard, and he wrote (Fear and Trembling) - a detailed, exhaustive analysis of the story in the Old Testament called The Binding of Isaac...the story where God tells Abraham to bind his son and take him up to the altar to be sacrificed as a burnt offering....and then sends an angel at the last second to say: just kidding...we just wanted to see if you'd really do it...were you really going to kill your son? Okay, maybe that's not what it actually says in writing, but the story has bewildered and disturbed many readers over the centuries as to its actually meaning, and Kierkegaard shows how Abraham is placed in a situation by God, where there is no right answer. God is telling Abraham to violate God's own law, so if he obeys God, he commits human sacrifice...but if he doesn't, he disobeys God's direct command.

What difference does it make to you anyway?
You dont believe in God?

So what! I also don't believe in some of the modern gods that have been created to replace belief in God.

There seems to be two types of people who come to these forums:
1. Those who recognize that there are a lot of different metaphysical beliefs out there, and want to know what people believe, and why they believe them, and....

2. Those who believe they have either exclusive or almost exclusive truth, and have come here to preach their religion/or to preach against all religion.

Good, but you cant think for millions and millions of people.

You select a screen name of "I" Have The Gift, and you're going to accuse me of arrogance?

worry about your life, let everyone else worry theirs

Which brings me to your post that I responded to:

If he were to give you 100% evidence of his existence, there would be no need for Faith.
Seems pretty logical to me.
However, the closer get to God, the more he has revealed to me of his existence

Doesn't seem like you're willing to butt out of giving everyone else free advice! Your mocking outrage is about having the basis of your faith questioned. If your faith was that strong, you would not only be able to explain it a little, you wouldn't consider it an offense if someone else questions your version of God as the divine stripper...just teasing us with a little bit of evidence, but not willing to show us the whole thing!