Noahs Ark

[richardlowellt]

Hey Richard, I meant the Bible thing is just a "story" & religious people don't teach it to their children in the way as pointed by you.

Of course they don't, they leave out the grisly details and replace them with smiling animals riding atop the ark in a sunny calm ocean, incredible dishonest. Any child that approaches the age of reason will see for themselves the ramifications of the entire globe being flooded and what would happen those not invited on to the Ark. It's a horror story for any child with any perception of what it means to drown.

They paint a very scary picture of the world & then invoke the idea of god as a way out of it.

Dishonesty once again, the scary picture they invoke is the work of this demon god, any child with half a brain will see through the dishonesty.

Actually, you painted a very real picture of the world, & this is exactly what one would expect in the realm of 'Evolution'.

Now all you have to do is show how this Godly global flood that slaughtered millions can be compared to evolution, this should be good.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

No, it is NOT reasonable for the assumption of a god and a supernatural world is NOT reasonable. There is zero evidence for any such thing. To make the assumption anyway is both illogical and foolish.

If science cannot explain reality then you need to show what aspect cannot be understood. So far, we have found NOTHING that either could not be explained by natural law or lacks sufficient evidence to say it actually exists/happened. This is not to say we understand everything. Clearly we do not. But we have no reason to assume what we don't understand CANNOT be understood.

While I may not disagree with what you've stated this is not the premise of what was offered. The premise was that if God did indeed exist and was capable of miracles that science isn't real or vise versa. I still say that is a false dilemma.

 

[OmarKhayyam]

While I may not disagree with what you've stated this is not the premise of what was offered. The premise was that if God did indeed exist and was capable of miracles that science isn't real or vise versa. I still say that is a false dilemma.

And you are still wrong. Congratulations.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

And you are still wrong. Congratulations.

Just saying it don't make it so. Could you explain why I am wrong in the context of how it was first stated?

 

[OmarKhayyam]

See #869

 

[Vile Atheist]

Hey Richard, I meant the Bible thing is just a "story" & religious people don't teach it to their children in the way as pointed by you. They paint a very scary picture of the world & then invoke the idea of god as a way out of it. Actually, you painted a very real picture of the world, & this is exactly what one would expect in the realm of 'Evolution'.

I love how you just validated my joking parody :shout

 

[sandy whitelinger]

See #869

See #870, and enjoy the merry-go-round ride.

 

[richardlowellt]

Allrighty then, now, back to, "Perhaps, [someone else], then can explain to me how the existance of a God who can perform outside the realm of the natural sciences negates the existance of the natural sciences.

"How the existence of a god performing outside the realm of natural science" is the problem. In order for that statement to be considered we would have to know what this realm that is "outside" is. What are its properties, where does it exist, can it be tested, or examined, if not it's a waste of time to even consider. Since we obviously can not get by the existence of this realm, it's foolish to even consider a being that dwells within that unknown realm.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

"How the existence of a god performing outside the realm of natural science" is the problem. In order for that statement to be considered we would have to know what this realm that is "outside" is. What are its properties, where does it exist, can it be tested, or examined, if not it's a waste of time to even consider. Since we obviously can not get by the existence of this realm, it's foolish to even consider a being that dwells within that unknown realm.

Sounds too much like the Matrix to me ("ERGO"......science fiction)

YouTube - Known Unknowns

:biglaugh:

Hey...!...What we do know was that there was no WWF......

 

[averageJOE]

"How the existence of a god performing outside the realm of natural science" is the problem. In order for that statement to be considered we would have to know what this realm that is "outside" is. What are its properties, where does it exist, can it be tested, or examined, if not it's a waste of time to even consider. Since we obviously can not get by the existence of this realm, it's foolish to even consider a being that dwells within that unknown realm.

I think what sandy was trying to say when he said outside the realm of natural science was; "There was a world wide flood, god made it happen, then god cleaned up afterwards so there is no trace of it, but let man write about it, just to test our faith."

 

[Vile Atheist]

I think what sandy was trying to say when he said outside the realm of natural science was; "There was a world wide flood, god made it happen, then god cleaned up afterwards so there is no trace of it, but let man write about it, just to test our faith."

If teh Babble says it, and teh Babble is teh Werd of Gawd, I believe it!!!

 

[sandy whitelinger]

"How the existence of a god performing outside the realm of natural science" is the problem. In order for that statement to be considered we would have to know what this realm that is "outside" is. What are its properties, where does it exist, can it be tested, or examined, if not it's a waste of time to even consider. Since we obviously can not get by the existence of this realm, it's foolish to even consider a being that dwells within that unknown realm.

Nevermind, you're just not following my point and I really don't care that much.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

I think what sandy was trying to say when he said outside the realm of natural science was; "There was a world wide flood, god made it happen, then god cleaned up afterwards so there is no trace of it, but let man write about it, just to test our faith."

You thought wrong.

 

[richardlowellt]

Nevermind, you're just not following my point and I really don't care that much.

Apparently your point was unclear, if you really don't care that much then stop posting, no one will miss it.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

I wouldn't tell my children a story about an evil being who murdered millions of innocent people just because he was angry. Pregnant women and young children watching in horror as the water rose, scrambling to get to higher ground only to be slowly overtaken by the rising water, fathers watching and helpless to save their wives and children as the sank beneath the waters, gasping as water entered their lungs, closing off their esophagus and slowly strangling, a most horrid death, and the animals where not spared either, millions drowning, all because this god was upset, why would anyone read such a horror story to a child?

If someone wanted to destroy you and your family how would you feel?

The violent people of Noah's day would have destroyed righteous Noah and his family if God had not first stepped in.

Wouldn't you want someone to step in and save you and your family?

The people of Noah's day could have been spared but they were beyond reform. Because of the violence not only would they have killed off Noah and his family they would have turned on each other. Would you want your children to live in such an unsafe, dangerous world where their very lives were in danger from those very ones around them?
What does Genesis 6:5 say about those people?____________________

 

[tumbleweed41]

If someone wanted to destroy you and your family how would you feel?

The violent people of Noah's day would have destroyed righteous Noah and his family if God had not first stepped in.

Wouldn't you want someone to step in and save you and your family?

The people of Noah's day could have been spared but they were beyond reform. Because of the violence not only would they have killed off Noah and his family they would have turned on each other. Would you want your children to live in such an unsafe, dangerous world where their very lives were in danger from those very ones around them?
What does Genesis 6:5 say about those people?____________________

Good thing your god got rid of all those potentially evil children and infants too.

 

[richardlowellt]

[quote="URAVIP2ME, post: 1724588"]If someone wanted to destroy you and your family how would you feel?

The violent people of Noah's day would have destroyed righteous Noah and his family if God had not first stepped in.  

Wouldn't you want someone to step in and save you and your family?

The people of Noah's day could have been spared but they were beyond reform.  Because of the violence not only would they have killed off Noah and his family they would have turned on each other.  Would you want your children to live in such an unsafe, dangerous world where their very lives were  in danger from those very ones around them? 
 What does Genesis  6:5 say about those people?____________________[/QUOTE]

So, how were the inhabitants of Egypt involved in this Noah bashing many thousand of miles away? How about those living in Australia, or south America, Africa, Russia? Did they all hate Noah and his family, and how did they find out about the Noah?

 

[richardlowellt]

The violent people of Noah's day would have destroyed righteous Noah and his family if God had not first stepped in.

And what source to you have that confirms that all the people of Noah's day were violent? Please don't say the bible, we all know how error ridden this text is.

Wouldn't you want someone to step in and save you and your family?

The people of Noah's day could have been spared but they were beyond reform. Because of the violence not only would they have killed off Noah and his family they would have turned on each other. Would you want your children to live in such an unsafe, dangerous world where their very lives were in danger from those very ones around them?
What does Genesis 6:5 say about those people?____________________[/QUOTE]

 

[Autodidact]

If someone wanted to destroy you and your family how would you feel?

The violent people of Noah's day would have destroyed righteous Noah and his family if God had not first stepped in.

Wouldn't you want someone to step in and save you and your family?

The people of Noah's day could have been spared but they were beyond reform. Because of the violence not only would they have killed off Noah and his family they would have turned on each other. Would you want your children to live in such an unsafe, dangerous world where their very lives were in danger from those very ones around them?
What does Genesis 6:5 say about those people?____________________

Even the babies? Even the Inuit babies?

 

[richardlowellt]

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QUOTE=Autodidact;1724654]Even the babies? Even the Inuit babies?

[/QUOTE]But of course, we all know how much the Inuit hate Noah and his family, and don't forget Inuit babies grow up to be violent, tearing each other apart, thats why god had to step in.