Noahs Ark

[camanintx]

The Bible makes it clear, Noah and his son's were all white.

Other races only came about after the destruction of the Tower of Babel. See Acts 17: 26.

The Egyptians, Mayiayao and Harappa must have been very surprised by this.

 

[Valjean]

By a "race" he wasn't referring to human races as we think of them today, he meant "variety," "species," or "subspecies."
He wrote about different races of finches, for instance.

 

[Autodidact]

There has never been any ''scientific progress''. The idea that man has evolved scientifically, technologically, etc is all evolutionist belief, not fact. I will make a thread sometime and show you that everything that exists now, always has thousands of years ago. That includes aircraft, electricity etc.

For starters you should look up the Antikythera mechanism, and the Baghdad Batteries.

The theory of evolution, is not only based on abusing science, but it also aims to ''primitivise'' early history of man to naked club wielding cavemen...evolutionists feel the need to alter the historical record since they have to try and show a ''mental evolution'' of man via technology and way of existance (which in fact never happened).

Quoted for general amusement.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

There has never been any ''scientific progress''. The idea that man has evolved scientifically, technologically, etc is all evolutionist belief, not fact. I will make a thread sometime and show you that everything that exists now,
always has thousands of years ago. That includes aircraft, electricity etc.

Your ignorance of science is very telling. There has been a continuous evolution of scientific discovery and invention...even restructuring or reworking of an existing invention. No one here has suggested we (did not or do not) learn from the past. Take the car manufacturers designing and building cars not so long ago....Now take a look at them today. We have learned a lot from the past.

For starters you should look up the Antikythera mechanism, and the Baghdad Batteries.

Your assumption is we don't already know about these devices. Although..the Baghdad battery was impressive it wasn't used for what a lot of people think it may have been used for (Electricity as a source of energy). It wasn't. It, like a lot of other methods back in the day was used for plating metals. Be careful though because these same "scientist" you criticise are the ones you're researching and presenting as your evidence.

The theory of evolution, is not only based on abusing science, but it also aims to ''primitivise'' early history of man to naked club wielding cavemen...

No...it's just based on sound evidence...which you are not equipped to understand nor refute.

evolutionists feel the need to alter the historical record

No...it's discovery that alters or enhances what we thought we knew concerning history.

since they have to try and show a ''mental evolution'' of man via technology and way of existance (which in fact never happened).

And you are a shinning example of this.....

 

[xkatz]

Indigeous people of Pakistan:

Kalash - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Many still exist with blonde hair and white skin.

I quote:

The study also showed the Kalash to be a separated group, with having no membership within European populations.

 

[The Neo Nerd]

There has never been any ''scientific progress''. The idea that man has evolved scientifically, technologically, etc is all evolutionist belief, not fact. I will make a thread sometime and show you that everything that exists now, always has thousands of years ago. That includes aircraft, electricity etc.

For starters you should look up the Antikythera mechanism, and the Baghdad Batteries.

The theory of evolution, is not only based on abusing science, but it also aims to ''primitivise'' early history of man to naked club wielding cavemen...evolutionists feel the need to alter the historical record since they have to try and show a ''mental evolution'' of man via technology and way of existance (which in fact never happened).

I'm calling Poe.

-Q

 

[Autodidact]

I've been suspecting it from the beginning. The alternative is of graver concern.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

O.K. I randomly picked one of your examples:

Shortly after the peopling of the world, a fisherman carelessly let his hooks get entangled in the hair of the sea god Ruahatu, who was reposing among the coral, and disturbed the god's rest when wrenching them out. The angry god surfaced, upbraided the fisherman, and threatened to destroy the land in revenge. The fisherman prostrated himself and apologized profusely. Moved by his penitence, Ruahatu told him to go with his wife and child to Toamarama, a small low island (not more than two feet above sea level) in a lagoon on the east side of Raiatea. This he did, taking also some domesticated animals. As the sun set, the ocean waters began to rise and continued rising all night. The other inhabitants fled to the mountains, but at last even these were covered, and everyone on Raiatea perished. When the waters receded, the fisherman and his family returned to the mainland and became progenitors of its present inhabitants.
So we get common elements: a God, a man, a family, a few animals, with only one family saved. That's all I can find in common.
Different elements: one of many gods, fisherman, angered God, apology, island, not the entire world, only a single island, refuge on another island, only a few domesticated animals. Overall I'd say it's more different than the same.
Would you like to do a few more?

OK

How is it more different?

Flood. God. man. family. some animals. one family saved. Doesn't that sound similar to: Deluge. God. Noah, animal kinds. one family saved?

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Question, how would people from that day and age even know what constituted the whole earth? They didn't even know about the Western Hemisphere. It may have been "their" whole earth, but not "the" whole earth.

For an example they could have looked up at the sky and saw the moon and sun were ball-shaped, more or less,

Isaiah wrote (40:22) that the earth was a circle. (Hebrew chug / hhug)

 

[Dirty Penguin]

For an example they could have looked up at the sky and saw the moon and sun were ball-shaped, more or less,

Isaiah wrote (40:22) that the earth was a circle. (Hebrew chug / hhug)

Yea....but we've been down that road before and all it means is (Compass). A compass does not give you shape nor does it calculate the circumference. It give you directions of (N, S, E and W). Other areas of the bible have men stating there's a tree in the center of the earth. Their perspective was that the earth was flat and could be seen in every direction.....

Strong's Hebrew to English Lexicon
2328 - chuwg khoog a primitive root; to describe a circle:--compass.
2329 - chuwg khoog; a circle:--circle, circuit, compass

Like (Circuit Training), (Electrical Circuit), (Circuit Court).....

There were other words that could have been used to describe the (round) earth. A couple that come to mind are (Duwr)...maybe even ( tsnephah).

But it's not surprising considering chuwg (compass) fits a flat earth understanding.

4230 - mchuwgah mekk-oo-gaw'; an instrument for marking a circle, i.e. compasses:--compass.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Some interesting info I came across today. I've said earlier that the story of Noah was adopted and redacted using earlier flood myths.... Check these out,

Ancient Babylonian Tablet Says Noah’s Ark Was Round

Relic reveals Noah's ark was circular | UK news | The Guardian

Epic of Gilgamesh: Tablet XI

 

[Autodidact]

OK

How is it more different?

Flood. God. man. family. some animals. one family saved. Doesn't that sound similar to: Deluge. God. Noah, animal kinds. one family saved?

I counted the elements in the story. More of them were different (island, one night, etc.) than were the same (flood, one family, etc.) I used an objective measure. Would you like to try another one?

 

[tumbleweed41]

There has never been any ''scientific progress''. The idea that man has evolved scientifically, technologically, etc is all evolutionist belief, not fact. I will make a thread sometime and show you that everything that exists now, always has thousands of years ago. That includes aircraft, electricity etc.

For starters you should look up the Antikythera mechanism, and the Baghdad Batteries.

Not to mention the Ancient technologies of microprocessors, man-made nuclear reactors, internal combustion engines, mapping of the human genome, solid state transistors, LEDs, LCDs, potentiometers, synthetic antibiotics, artificial kidney dialysis, plastic, carborundum, digital storage, cathode ray tubes, cell phones, cochlear implants, magnetic resonance imaging, and the most important of ancient technological evidence......a two thousand year old Twinkie!!!
:foot:

 

[tumbleweed41]

Not to mention the Ancient technologies of microprocessors, man-made nuclear reactors, internal combustion engines, mapping of the human genome, solid state transistors, LEDs, LCDs, potentiometers, synthetic antibiotics, artificial kidney dialysis, plastic, carborundum, digital storage, cathode ray tubes, cell phones, cochlear implants, magnetic resonance imaging, and the most important of ancient technological evidence......a two thousand year old Twinkie!!!

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Ancient Spectacles/glasses

The Adoration of the Magi, which appears to show baby Jesus wearing spectacles, is displayed in one of the five marble reliefs in the pulpit of the baptistery created by Nicola Pisano at Pisa in the thirteenth century. However, the evidence for the use of spectacles appears to go further back in history before the childhood of Jesus Christ. Plautus (254-184BC) the Roman playwriter for example wrote of them.

Ancient electricity

The so-called Baghdad batteries, discovered in the 1930’s, are now old news, and the evidence that the ancients used them to electroplate some of the artifacts stored in museums around the world is likewise common knowledge.

Heron's coin operated water dispener. 2000 years old.

etc. It's only evolutionists who still portray the history of man as follows:

Anyone who has an education in history, would realise man has not evolved. The Bible says man was intelligent from the beginning, and was using technology etc since the beginning of his existance. The Bible says to trust God above technology.



Trust God above technology

• Tower of Babel Genesis 11
• Exodus 20:4
• Deuteronomy 6:10, Deuteronomy 8:10
• Job 28
• Psalm 20:7
• Proverbs 18:10
• Isaiah 31:1
• Jeremiah 2:13

If you learn about the Tower of Babel, you would realise it was so high, it nearly pierced the Heavens. Man now can not build that high. So we are not as technologically advanced as 4,000 or so years ago.

What does any of this have to do with the subject?

No one ever said we weren't smart enough to invent. What is being said is that the flood story is not true. It is a retelling of folklore.

 

[Autodidact]

Ascythian is sharing his unique (to say the least) version of science, which is (please correct if I'm wrong, Ascythian) that ancient people [not sure how ancient] practiced REAL science, and had REAL knowledge, while this stuff that's been going on for the last 400 years or so isn't REAL science, it's atheistic science, and all wrong. Ascythian loves REAL science, which is the knowledge of the ancient. He's opposed to this modern, atheistic, psuedo-science and word tricknology. Is that right, Ascythian?

 

[Autodidact]

The Noachian deluge is verified by mythology.

Quoted for emphasis.

 

[challupa]

For an example they could have looked up at the sky and saw the moon and sun were ball-shaped, more or less,

Isaiah wrote (40:22) that the earth was a circle. (Hebrew chug / hhug)

Even if they suspected their earth was round they still did not have the technology to "KNOW" the entire globe was covered with water. How would they know?

 

[Autodidact]

Science = observation. Evolution has never been observed, thus it is not scientific.

SCIENCE DOES NOT = OBSERVATION. (at least the fourth time I've explained this.) Science is based on observed facts. Science does something with those facts--it develops hypotheses and tests them and observes the outcome of those tests. Based on those outcomes, scientific hypotheses become theories, which are not themselves directly observed. Theories are explanations that work, are consistent with all observations, and make predictions that are also confirmed. The Theory of Evolution (ToE) does all that, and thus is scientific in the modern sense.

Further, the fact that organisms evolve is actually observed. The only way Ascythian can deny this is to assert that the thousands of scientific studies reporting these observations are lies or mistaken.

I am simply against the abusing of the definition of words by Atheists.

Glad to help clarify that for you.

 

[Autodidact]

So, Ascythian, that redundant explanation aside, could you respond to the question? When you say "science," you're referring to purported ancient science, and discard all scientific progress in the last 400 years, including the round earth (which has actually been known for around 2000 years), heliocentrism, and gravity, correct? You think of ancient "observation," such as the myth that Adam observed God magically zapping things into existence in a 6-day period 6000 years ago, as science, correct?

btw, do you accept all creation myths, or only those of white people?