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[We Never Know]

You can't diagnose a dead person and he was a hater before he showed any indications he may have had Parkisons.

Take it up with the experts.

 

[We Never Know]

They are far too different in nature to simply sum up as all the same. I have a bruise on my arm amd I have no idea where it came from because it's that minor. But an open bone fracture? That debilitating and life altering for several months.

And bty, they are the same as all being physical injuries. They are not equivalent as they are different injuries but are all physical injuries.

You seem to have trouble with that.

 

[We Never Know]

Comparing it to schizophrenia, yes that is hateful amd a screaming admission of ignorance of both gender dysphoria and schizophrenia.

These are all mental health issues. No one is comparing them.

They are not equivalent, they are different mental health issues. They are all the same as being under the same umbrella of being mental health issues.

• Anxiety disorders
• Behavioural and emotional disorders in children
• Bipolar affective disorder
• Depression
• Dissociation and dissociative disorders
• Eating disorders
• Obsessive compulsive disorder
• Paranoia
• Post-traumatic stress disorder
• Psychosis
• Schizophrenia

 

[Argentbear]

That's because in the real world they have not divorced biology from gender. In the real world when someone speaks of a woman, 99.999% of the time they are talking about an adult female. When someone asks where is the women's room, it is known they are looking for the restrooms for females. When Carmen Best was announced as the first woman police chief, everybody knew she was an adult female; not a male. It's only places like here where nobody seems to know what a woman is; in the real world everybody knows.

and in the real world gender and sex are two different things.

 

[Kfox]

Then why do where I work (I'm a phlebotomist) the guys have thus far all objected to pink coban wrap on thier arm while some of the gals have objected to blue?
And do stop trying to split hairs. Gender typed, gender norms, gender rules, they're all largely interchangable and it only serves to annoy to try to make a point over this. It's understood, move along.

You said gender; not gender typed, norms, or rules. Gender type, gender norms, or gender rules apply to actions; gender applies to people.

 

[Kfox]

and in the real world gender and sex are two different things.

Then how come they generally are not treated as two different things? As a matter of fact; even the dictionary defines them as the same thing

Dictionary.com | Meanings & Definitions of English Words

The world's leading online dictionary: English definitions, synonyms, word origins, example sentences, word games, and more. A trusted authority for 25+ years!

www.dictionary.com

 

[Argentbear]

Sex is physical
Gender is mental

Mental not aligning with sex is a mental condition, issue, problem, etc.
I don't say that because I hate them, fear them or because I am a transphobe. It is what it is.

When they do align it is also a mental condition

It's only a problem when someone is aligned in a way you don't like. The "problem" isn't with them it is with you. And yeah that is transphobia.

Someone with schizophrenia I will say they have a mental issue, condition, problem etc.
I don't say that because I hate them, fear them or because I am a schizphobe. It is what it is.

Someone with schizophrenia experiences dysfunction because of their perceptions of reality, Transgendered if they do experience dysfunction it is because the people around then reacted with fear, hate, disgust, prejudice and insist on mislabeling them as mentally ill. again it's not the trans person that has the problem its those around the transperson.

 

[We Never Know]

Then why do where I work (I'm a phlebotomist) the guys have thus far all objected to pink coban wrap on thier arm while some of the gals have objected to blue?
And do stop trying to split hairs. Gender typed, gender norms, gender rules, they're all largely interchangable and it only serves to annoy to try to make a point over this. It's understood, move along.

Society changed the way colors were viewed.

"In the 19th century, baby boys often wore white and pink. Pink was seen as a masculine color, while girls often wore white and blue."

Pink - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I even think it was that way up until around WWII

 

[We Never Know]

When they do align it is also a mental condition

It's only a problem when someone is aligned in a way you don't like. The "problem" isn't with them it is with you. And yeah that is transphobia.

Someone with schizophrenia experiences dysfunction because of their perceptions of reality, Transgendered if they do experience dysfunction it is because the people around then reacted with fear, hate, disgust, prejudice and insist on mislabeling them as mentally ill. again it's not the trans person that has the problem its those around the transperson.

So why not accept it if someone says they are a cat?

They may not physically be a cat but mentally they might be.(believe they are)

 

[Argentbear]

Lets take Hitler ... The first in your list...

Paranoid delusions, persecution mania, and selfish and narcissistic attitude

you just described Donald Trump.

characterized him to his final days and contrasting attitudes towards the Jews and animals point towards a serious personality disorder, as suggested by a number of researchers.

Adolf Hitler and His Parkinsonism - PMC

Research works have suggested almost incontrovertibly, that Adolf Hitler suffered from Parkinsonism. However, the precise nature of his illness had always been controversial and post-encephalitic and idiopathic varieties were the ones which were ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

So you were saying?

He doesn't seem mentally stable to me. How about you?

there are also a group of right wing individuals who assert that Hitler was homosexual. These same individuals are at the front of the movement to lobby governments of third world countries to Criminalize homosexuality and make it punishable by imprisonment, torture and death.

 

[Argentbear]

Are they all physical injuries?

Being LGBT is not a mental illness

 

[We Never Know]

you just described Donald Trump.

there are also a group of right wing individuals who assert that Hitler was homosexual. These same individuals are at the front of the movement to lobby governments of third world countries to Criminalize homosexuality and make it punishable by imprisonment, torture and death.

Lmao!! Yep. Its all right wing conspiracy

 

[We Never Know]

When they do align it is also a mental condition

It's only a problem when someone is aligned in a way you don't like. The "problem" isn't with them it is with you. And yeah that is transphobia.

Someone with schizophrenia experiences dysfunction because of their perceptions of reality, Transgendered if they do experience dysfunction it is because the people around then reacted with fear, hate, disgust, prejudice and insist on mislabeling them as mentally ill. again it's not the trans person that has the problem its those around the transperson.

A study that was linked here in this thread...several pages back said

"The study showed the brains of transgender women had shifted from their biological sex but was still closer to cisgender men, than cisgender women.

 

[Argentbear]

So why not accept it if someone says they are a cat?

They may not physically be a cat but mentally they might be.(believe they are)

you just posted a bunch of unrelated cut and paste links about mental disorders. They like all mental illness have at their core dysfunction in major areas of daily life. Believing one is a cat (a delusion) produces dysfunction since doing so would interfere with such things as being employed or maintain living spaces etc. Being trans itself doesn't produce dysfunction

 

[Argentbear]

Lmao!! Yep. Its all right wing conspiracy

no it's a right wing reality. One of the more famous books pushing this nonsense is "the Pink Swastika by Scott Lively. He is the president of Abiding Truth Ministries and on the board of the American Family Association. together these organizations have raised millions spending it successfully lobbying for anti-gay legislation in Latvia, Russia, Uganda, Jamaica. He claims to have actually authored Uganda's Inti-homosexual act, the so called 'kill the gays law'

 

[Argentbear]

A study that was linked here in this thread...several pages back said

"The study showed the brains of transgender women had shifted from their biological sex but was still closer to cisgender men, than cisgender women.

which has what to do with anything i posted?

 

[McBell]

So why not accept it if someone says they are a cat?

What makes you think I don't?

 

[We Never Know]

What makes you think I don't?

They may. Quite a bit is accepted anymore.

 

[Kfox]

Someone with schizophrenia experiences dysfunction because of their perceptions of reality, Transgendered if they do experience dysfunction it is because the people around then reacted with fear, hate, disgust, prejudice and insist on mislabeling them as mentally ill.

I would imagine the person with schizophrenia would say the dysfunction they experience is because of the people around them reacting with fear, hate, disgust, prejudice, and insist on mislabeling them as mentally ill, and the people around the transgendered person claim the transgender dysfunction is due to their perceptions with reality.

 

[Argentbear]

I would imagine the person with schizophrenia would say the dysfunction they experience is because of the people around them reacting with fear, hate, disgust, prejudice, and insist on mislabeling them as mentally ill, and the people around the transgendered person claim the transgender dysfunction is due to their perceptions with reality.

while many do react negatively to those with schizophrenia that isn't the source of dysfunction. If you take away the negative response the dysfunction in multiple life areas is still there. In contrast trans people function in daily life just fine in spite of bigotry.