LGB is totally different than T.
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This will probably cause a **** storm but...something to think about.
I read a blog or opinion piece before that the person who claimed to have degrees in several fields said.
Generally transgender females are attracted to males, transgender males attracted to females.
Then something about could they be gay and lesbian using different ways to accept/cope with that.
If a male lives as a woman and is with a man or a female that lives as a man is with a woman its not appearing as being gay. Something about transgender being the new gay but appearing as opposite sex couples instead of same sex couples(appearing to be gay/lesbian)
I searched, but couldn't find it but did find....
There are studies that show the brains of gay men had similarities to the brains of women
Brains of gay people resemble those of straight people of opposite sex
Brain scans show similarities in shape and connections between gay brains and straight ones from the opposite sex.
www.nationalgeographic.com
Study Says Brains of Gay Men and Women Are Similar
Brain scans provide evidence that sexual orientation is biological
Same as there are studies that show the brains of transgender females had similarities to the brains of women
Brain Sex in Transgender Women Is Shifted towards Gender Identity - PMC
Transgender people report discomfort with their birth sex and a strong identification with the opposite sex. The current study was designed to shed further light on the question of whether the brains of transgender people resemble their birth sex or ...
Same as there are studies that show the brains of lesbians had similarities to the brains of men.
Gay men and heterosexual women have similarly shaped brains, research shows | Neuroscience | The Guardian
Here's how I took their blog/opinion piece...
Jill(formerly Bill) is a transgender female(male living as a female) that likes men and they appear to be opposite sex couples when together.
If Jill/Bill wasn't a transgender living as a female, they would be considered gay.
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Argentbear
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and it isn't a mental illness
Gender Dysphoria (GD), is in the DSM. What's important to keep in mind is that kids with GD are mostly NOT trans.
Argentbear
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Gender dysphoria is an anxiety disorder caused by distress and external pressures in people whose gender identity differs from their sex assigned at birth or sex-related physical characteristics.
Gender dysphoria is not transgenderism
You have to be trans to have gender dysphoria
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
That is the experts. It's no different than when the APA told clinicians to knock their crap of trying to armchair diagnose Trump because of the practical, ethical and legal implications of trying to be a shrink to someone who isn't your patient.
There's more evidence to suggest Hitler had cryptorchidism due to a medical report from German doctor at the time who looked at him and took note.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
How do clinicians approach GD? How do they generally think of it?
Most of the time kids with GD have other mental conditions and/or they end up being gay. Most kids with GD - if allowed to go thru puberty without the influence of "gender affirming care" (GAC) - grow out of their GD naturally.
Reference?
This claim is well documented. At this moment perhaps one of the best references would be found in the recently released Cass Report.
The Cass Report is hundreds of pages. Can you quote the relevant passage that supports what you claimed?
One of the Cass Report's takeaways is:
"Generalisations about children and young people questioning their gender identity or experiencing gender dysphoria are unhelpful. People are individuals."
Final Report – Cass Review
cass.independent-review.uk
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Not sure what you want but here's this ..
"Children with gender dysphoria often experience a range of psychiatric comorbidities, with a high prevalence of mood and anxiety disorders, trauma, eating disorders and autism spectrum conditions, suicidality and self-harm"
It is vitally important to consider psychiatric comorbidities when prioritising and sequencing treatments for children with gender dysphoria.
The development of international treatment guidelines would provide greater consistency across diagnosis, treatment and ongoing management.
"Further, many children who show gender dysphoria before puberty do not continue to do so during and after pubertal changes occur. However, if gender dysphoria does persist into adolescence, its intensity tends to increase at this time"
Transgender children and young people: how the evidence can point the way forward - PMC
The development of gender identity in children from around the age of 3 years is described. Wishes for transgender identity are distinguished from gender-atypical behaviour. Reasons for the recent rise in transgender referrals in the early teen ...
You can search in the Cass Report and elsewhere with the term "desist"The Cass Report is hundreds of pages. Can you quote the relevant passage that supports what you claimed?
One of the Cass Report's takeaways is:
"Generalisations about children and young people questioning their gender identity or experiencing gender dysphoria are unhelpful. People are individuals."
Final Report – Cass Review
Not sure what you want but here's this ..
"Children with gender dysphoria often experience a range of psychiatric comorbidities, with a high prevalence of mood and anxiety disorders, trauma, eating disorders and autism spectrum conditions, suicidality and self-harm"
It is vitally important to consider psychiatric comorbidities when prioritising and sequencing treatments for children with gender dysphoria.
The development of international treatment guidelines would provide greater consistency across diagnosis, treatment and ongoing management.
"Further, many children who show gender dysphoria before puberty do not continue to do so during and after pubertal changes occur. However, if gender dysphoria does persist into adolescence, its intensity tends to increase at this time"
Transgender children and young people: how the evidence can point the way forward - PMC
The development of gender identity in children from around the age of 3 years is described. Wishes for transgender identity are distinguished from gender-atypical behaviour. Reasons for the recent rise in transgender referrals in the early teen ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
The second quote is most relevant. As you can see, it doesn't say what was claimed, which is that most minors with GD who don't get gender affirming care just naturally grow out of it. In fact it suggests the opposite - that if kids post-puberty still have GD, it's unlikely to just go away.
I did; there are 10 occurences of the term. None say what you said. Can you quote the relevant passage that you think supports what you said?
It appears that you care about kids with GD, that's a good thing. I think the summary chapter in the Cass review is a good overview of a complex topic - well worth the read.
But specifically, go to page 41 and read the first sentence of paragraph 144.
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Gender incongruence isn't GD. The report specifically explains this.
It's also weird that you're not just quoting it, like I asked you to.
Are you confused by something I said?
Argentbear
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Again gender dysphoria is an anxiety disorder that transgender individuals can get it is not transgenderism
Second you seem to be referring to a pair of junk science articles. one published by the American College of Pediatricians, a recognized hate group. the "study" looked at teens and young adults who had received puberty blockers and noted that 92% of them were not transgender. Ignoring the fact that over 90% of children placed on puberty blockers were prescribed these medications for precocious puberty, puberty beginning as early as ages 5 or 6.
There is another junk study that makes the same claim looking at children who were referred to psychiatric services or gender identity programs by medical doctors to confirm transgenderism. most kids were not trans in the first place.
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