You've never filed income taxes, have you?
That's the only explanation I can think of for you not knowing that churches get tax breaks, and that when you claim your donations to a church on your taxes, you get money back.
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Non-Christians obsessed with Christianity
- Thread starter tayla
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That's the only explanation I can think of for you not knowing that churches get tax breaks, and that when you claim your donations to a church on your taxes, you get money back.
Faithofchristian
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How exactly does this work for churches to get tax breaks in a country that's not Christian.
If to what your saying to be true, that means the United States is a Christian Nation, for Christians to get tax breaks from the United States
Otherwise why would a Nation that is not a Christian nation give tax breaks to Christians.
The United States was established on the Christian values.
The founding fathers established the United States base on the Christian values.
This is how Christian churches got their tax breaks.
All the freedom's people have here in the United States comes from those founding fathers and motherd who were Christians themselves.
To establish freedom of speech, freedom to worship in the way we choose, free from Government oppression.
Freedom of life and the pursuit of happiness.
This is base off Christian values.
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- what on Earth are you going on about?
- do you think I'm American?
loganonekenobi
Member
Your particular God right?
Everyone else's religion is fake right?
When you have the facts pound The facts. If you don't then pound the table .
The evidence I pointed out simply shows that the new testaments aren't as reliable as many believe.
Faithofchristian
Well-Known Member
If the new testaments aren't reliable as you say, Then can you explain how Prophecy's in the new testaments which were given a little over 2000 years ago, that you say aren't reliable are being fulfilled to day as you speak.
Therefore, When you have the facts pound the facts, If you don't then pound the table.
In your case, you have neither.
Um, all religious institutions get tax breaks, from Christians to Hindu to Buddhists to Satanists.
The theory is that churches function as nonprofit organization for charity. But this is often abused and looking to change after organization such a Scientologist filed as a religious group so that they can receive said tax break.
Churches should have to prove they're doing charitable work just like any other charity to receive tax breaks.
Faithofchristian
Well-Known Member
So now the question is.
Why are you making a fuss about, The churches of the United States having tax breaks.
If you are not a Citizen of the United States.
I would adopt the central European way. Instead of giving tax breaks to churches, give tax breaks to people who do not use them.
As an atheist in Switzerland, for instance, I pay a few thousands less per year than a Christian.
Of course, you have to officially declare that you are not a Christian, but that is no biggy. Only old people here still thing that is important.
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loganonekenobi
Member
Like what prophecies?
loganonekenobi
Member
You are taking the argument a whole different direction. Prophecy is subjective to interrupretation.
My point is on historical evidence.
If you can't stay on that then you are the one wirh no facts.
If these biblical prophecies were compelling, they would have convinced and converted us all.
Did you ever see the movie Frequency, wherein Dennis Quaid's character’s son contacts his father from his father's future by ham radio. To convince his father that he really is calling from his father's future - from 1998 back to 1969 - the son discusses the outcome of game five of what is for the father the as-yet unfinished 1969 Mets-Orioles World Series:
"Well, game five was the big one. It turned in the bottom of the 6th. We were down 3-0. Cleon Jones gets hit on the foot - left a scuffmark on the ball. Clendenon comes up. The count goes to 2 and 2. High fastball. He nailed it. Weis slammed a solo shot in the 7th to tie. Jones and Swoboda scored in the 8th. We won, Pop."
Then the father watches it happen on TV. That's high quality "prophecy." That's a convincing knowledge of future events.
Biblical prophecy is what is called low quality prophecy. High quality prophecy is specific, detailed and unambiguous. Optimally, the time and place are specified. It also needs to prophecy something unexpected, unlikely or unique - something that was not self-fulfilling and could not have been contrived or easily guessed, and that they were made before the event predicted.
Biblical prophecy doesn't rise to that standard, but scientific prophecy (predictions made by scientific theories) does. Consider the recently confirmed prophecy of the Higgs boson, found precisely where the scientific prophets said it would be with the qualities it was predicted to have.
No god, prophet or priest ever made a prophecy of such high quality.
Even science's high quality prophecies don't make us think a god was needed or is implied, so why would the vague and nonspecific biblical prophecies make us think that?
If you aren't interested in having a meaningful discission, just say so. Or don't reply.
TruthSeeker1
Member
^^^trollish self righteous, judgemental behaviour being pointed out. You're on ignore as of now, so keep it up with others.
loganonekenobi
Member
i was going to bring out the evidence but i doubt that it would be fruitful.