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Now they're going after Morgan Freeman.

Kirran

Premium Member
I think if a woman feels that way they shouldn't wait so long. Yeah there's fear and nervousness involved but if it's that serious you would think somebody would report it almost immediately or at least a short time thereafter.

I had planned to reply, but leibowde has basically done the job.

Why on Earth would they come forward at a time when a) they wouldn't be taken seriously, and would be shamed and b) they'd lose their careers over it?

Much clearer attitudes about sexual abuse and harassment are beginning to gain sway now.

It wasn't long ago that young women wouldn't really know whether to trust their thinking on this being OK or not, on it being 'just part of the job' and so on - now public sympathy allows women to stand up and say 'you know what, this WASN'T OK, it WASN'T just part of what you've gotta go through as an actress or as a woman'.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I had planned to reply, but leibowde has basically done the job.

Why on Earth would they come forward at a time when a) they wouldn't be taken seriously, and would be shamed and b) they'd lose their careers over it?

Much clearer attitudes about sexual abuse and harassment are beginning to gain sway now.

It wasn't long ago that young women wouldn't really know whether to trust their thinking on this being OK or not, on it being 'just part of the job' and so on - now public sympathy allows women to stand up and say 'you know what, this WASN'T OK, it WASN'T just part of what you've gotta go through as an actress or as a woman'.
What kind of proof do you think these women have now that it was the case in fact as they allege?
 

Kirran

Premium Member
What kind of proof do you think these women have now that it was the case in fact as they allege?

This was a little scrambled, but if I understood correctly - I don't what proof they have. I don't know whether Morgan Freeman did these things.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Jesus f****** Christ!

The man is in his 80s this bull**** has got to stop. If a woman feels sexually harassed and abused I'm of the opinion to accuse or lose once past the statute of limitations.
One of the complaints is from last year. How long did you have in mind?
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Jesus f****** Christ!

The man is in his 80s this bull**** has got to stop. If a woman feels sexually harassed and abused I'm of the opinion to accuse or lose once past the statute of limitations.

I'm really looking at this as the start of a cheap money grab at someone who is nothing like Bill Cosby.

https://www.esquire.com/entertainme...organ-freeman-accused-inappropriate-behavior/


Morgan Freeman accused of inappropriate behavior, harassment - CNN

Celebrities get a lot of groupies. They may start taking some of that star power for granted.

You get used to women throwing themselves at you, you might edge into inappropriate behavior trying to encourage it.

It's a fine line a guy has to walk these days and maybe some guys need to get slapped back across it occasionally.

I don't think all guys are deplorable just stupid about sex sometimes. Women need to speak up immediately when they encounter behavior that they feel is not appropriate. Otherwise hows a fellow supposed to know? They are just trying to get laid.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Jesus f****** Christ!
The man is in his 80s this bull**** has got to stop. If a woman feels sexually harassed and abused I'm of the opinion to accuse or lose once past the statute of limitations.
I'm really looking at this as the start of a cheap money grab at someone who is nothing like Bill Cosby.
https://www.esquire.com/entertainme...organ-freeman-accused-inappropriate-behavior/
Morgan Freeman accused of inappropriate behavior, harassment - CNN

OMG. Unbelievable "Morgan Freeman lifted her shirt a bit and asked if she is wearing underwear". Come on what is this, women in america flashing their boobs all day on internet and then making such a big deal about this little naugthy remark. They are only after money and this is so really sick. I don't believe in the Satan, but this is Satan living in the minds of those women and men suing each other for money only [or likes or whatever].

If they want this "no touching no commenting on anything" they should start today and don't go back many years. You can't do that. That is so wrong. Oh and then start stopping nudity in films and TV. And stop undressed or half naked walking on the street.

Maybe better adopt the Islamic way to dress and behave. I think when done respectful it's a good way to solve this crazyness that goes on now. Come on we live in 2018, not in 1900.

And then the first to sue should be D.Trump, because he has said "Grab them by the Pu*ssy". 100 times worse than M.Freeman's above remark.
 
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leibowde84

Veteran Member
Actually I'm not.

But......

But if women wait and wait, they're going to come across as being opportunist and not looking for vindication or Justice as their focus have they acted sooner.

Is one of the woman now going to make a rap song like one did for Bill Cosby?
Why does that matter? Does the fact that she wrote a song mean that she wasn't raped? Music is a great way to make your voice heard.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I wholeheartedly disagree. You are forgetting the FACT that it wasn't accepted for women to come forward in the entertainment industry until pretty recently. Back in the 90s and early 2000s, women would lose their livelihoods for speaking up about abuse. Now they don't have to take it. The men who perpetrated these crimes should be held accountable, even if it is just public shaming. Imagine if your sister was raped by one of these fools, but was too scared (for good reason) to come forward, as no one would have done anything and she would have lost her future? I'm pretty sure you would be singing a different tune.

Eh, we could argue they are losing their livelihood anyway. I mean all of the #MeToo people are basically "wrecked" on their careers. Anyway, there are allegations who knows if they hold water as of yet. But, it does look like the house of cards is falling off the table.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
I think if a woman feels that way they shouldn't wait so long. Yeah there's fear and nervousness involved but if it's that serious you would think somebody would report it almost immediately or at least a short time thereafter.
Yep. Sure. No reason not to accuse one of the most powerful, well regarded people in the industry when you're a relative nobody. Can't imagine why someone wouldn't.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
All that tells me is there was prioritization that their livelihood is better than reporting sexual harassment. You would think sexual harassment would trump careers if it affected them that much.
Spoken like someone who's never had to make such a choice.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Spoken like someone who's never had to make such a choice.
Then the person's career is more important than the offense itself. It's pretty black and white if they choose to stick around.

There's also a choice to leave and not remain associated with someone who you think is less than stellar.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Jesus f****** Christ!

The man is in his 80s this bull**** has got to stop. If a woman feels sexually harassed and abused I'm of the opinion to accuse or lose once past the statute of limitations.

I'm really looking at this as the start of a cheap money grab at someone who is nothing like Bill Cosby.

https://www.esquire.com/entertainme...organ-freeman-accused-inappropriate-behavior/


Morgan Freeman accused of inappropriate behavior, harassment - CNN

I dont think I wanna read the links. Id never would think a second morgan is involved in such mess. Come on now. He's God! Seriously. I listen to this a lot. Reminds me of the MJ issue. People were ready to crucify him.


Im thinking these "abuses", suicides, and drug issues were not accidents. Just sayin'
 
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ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Then the person's career is more important than the offense itself. It's pretty black and white if they choose to stick around.

There's also a choice to leave and not remain associated with someone who you think is less than stellar.
Remind me not to ask you to join for addressing people in domestic abuse relationships who feel too scared to leave, either due to personal, professional or financial threats that make them feel like they either need to 'shut up put up with it' or 'accept total ruin.'
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I dont think I wanna read the links. Id never would think a second morgan is involved in such mess. He's God! Seriously. I listen to this a lot. Reminds me of the MJ issue. Oeople were ready to crucify him.



Im thinking these "abuses", suicides, and drug issues were not accidents. Just sayin'
I first heard of it while in Southern Ontario earlier today on 91.7.

It just doesn't sound right given Morgan Freeman's reputation and history as an upstanding person. He's definitely a flirter, but I don't think anything more serious past flirtation for which he's publicly apologized since the allegations surfaced.

I'm not aware of where he actually tried to drug and rape somebody like Cosby, but this is eerily similar given the media attention that it has years after the fact.

It's getting really hard to distinguish genuineness from opportunistic as far as motivation goes in accusing high profile wealthy successful men these days.

Given the media circus around Bill Cosby and the bizarre behavior some of his accusers it seems a parallel is being formed with Morgan Freeman of which I can't tell if this is an opportunistic accusation or an actual genuine cry of justice for offenses that have gone unpunished.

I guess like Cosby, will have to wait for any details to surface. Either way I see this becoming yet another circus where the lines of opportunity and Justice get blurred and how this will affect any relations between women and men in the future in general.
 
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