Now they're going after Morgan Freeman.

[Kangaroo Feathers]

You're forgetting immensely wealthy as well.

And cultural icon, and probably a bunch of other stuff besides. Satisfied yet?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Then the person's career is more important than the offense itself. It's pretty black and white if they choose to stick around.

There's also a choice to leave and not remain associated with someone who you think is less than stellar.

Wow.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Remind me not to ask you to join for addressing people in domestic abuse relationships who feel too scared to leave, either due to personal, professional or financial threats that make them feel like they either need to 'shut up put up with it' or 'accept total ruin.'

So you think Morgan Freeman is completely guilty here? What about entertaining the possibility he is being falsely accused by opportunistic woman?

Don't you think Morgan Freeman has a right to defend himself and his reputation?

Next to school shootings, I suspect this is going to be the newest media fad now.

Wealthy famous and successful high profile men accused by groups of women for various reasons for which such occurrences may or may not be true.

Already it appears like most on the thread so far think Freeman is guilty given how quickly the defense goes to the women accusers and not Morgan Freeman himself in defense.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Wow.

Yea. Wow.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

So you think Morgan Freeman is completely guilty here? What about entertaining the possibility he is being falsely accused by opportunistic woman?

Don't you think Morgan Freeman has a right to defend himself and his reputation?

Next to school shootings, I suspect this is going to be the newest media fad now.

Wealthy famous and successful high profile men accused by groups of women for various reasons for which such occurrences may or may not be true.

Already it appears like most you on the thread so far think Freeman is guilty given how quickly the defense goes to the women accusers and not Morgan Freeman himself in defense.

I made no comment about this case. I'm making a comment on your insinuation that it should be just a no brainer easy deal to make a hard choice between what they perceive as ruining their lives or tolerating assault. And minimizing the effect the end of your job (and the ability to get a job in your career) can have for some of these people. Especially back in the 80's and 90's.

And relating it to domestic abuse cases where women are afraid for themselves and their families to leave an abusive spouse, especially if they were physically violent or controlled the house assets.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Yea. Wow.

And battered spouses should just leave, huh?

 

[Twilight Hue]

And cultural icon, and probably a bunch of other stuff besides. Satisfied yet?

Depends on how things turn out with Freeman.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

So you think Morgan Freeman is completely guilty here? What about entertaining the possibility he is being falsely accused by opportunistic woman?

Don't you think Morgan Freeman has a right to defend himself and his reputation?

Next to school shootings, I suspect this is going to be the newest media fad now.

Wealthy famous and successful high profile men accused by groups of women for various reasons for which such occurrences may or may not be true.

Already it appears like most on the thread so far think Freeman is guilty given how quickly the defense goes to the women accusers and not Morgan Freeman himself in defense.

Who has suggested Freeman is guilty? All anyone has done is point out some of the varied reasons people don't immediately come forward with abuse accusations.

 

[Sunstone]

Yeah there's fear and nervousness involved but if it's that serious you would think somebody would report it almost immediately or at least a short time thereafter.

Fear and nervousness? That's like saying "Getting smacked on the head with a baseball bat can cause headaches." Rape, generally speaking, seems to be a traumatic experience that most often has far ranging effects that last years or even decades. How many people experiencing mere "fear and nervousness" wish they were dead, even to the point of being at risk of suicide? Yet I've heard from more than one friend who was raped that can be one of the many fallouts from being raped

 

[Twilight Hue]

And battered spouses should just leave, huh?

You're damn right they should. My uncle used to smack the hell out of my aunt and she said, "Screw this, I'm gone".

Never looked back and was better off for it.

However it's clear people have different sets of priorities right? Bottom line is people are masters of their own fate. If you're really in a bad situation, leave.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Who has suggested Freeman is guilty? All anyone has done is point out some of the varied reasons people don't immediately come forward with abuse accusations.

Well let's hope women today are more proactive then in the past. It's no secret there's far more chance of success while things are still recent or ongoing rather than waiting years down the road.

 

[Sunstone]

Any man who uses his position to take advantage of any woman should be severely kicked in the nuts, so hard that he won't ever even want to do it again.

I prefer more humane, more medically sound ways of castrating rapists, such as repeatedly employing a Louisville slugger in a surgical manner to do the job. But I do share your sentiment here.

 

[Sunstone]

Well let's hope women today are more proactive then in the past. It's no secret there's far more chance of success while things are still recent or ongoing rather than waiting years down the road.

Finally! We agree on something. And yet, there are many reasons women might delay coming forward which remain even in a relatively supportive age.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

You're damn right they should. My uncle used to smack the hell out of my aunt and she said, "Screw this, I'm gone".

Never looked back and was better off for it.

However it's clear people have different sets of priorities right? Bottom line is people are masters of their own fate. If you're really in a bad situation, leave.

Of course, it's so simple! That's why there aren't decades of research and literature about why abuse victims don't leave. They're just not 'prioritizing' correctly.

So obvious sly lacking nuance or empathy.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Fear and nervousness? That's like saying "Getting smacked on the head with a baseball bat can cause headaches." Rape, generally speaking, seems to be a traumatic experience that most often has far ranging effects that last years or even decades. How many people experiencing mere "fear and nervousness" wish they were dead, even to the point of being at risk of suicide? Yet I've heard from more than one friend who was raped that can be one of the many fallouts from being raped

I don't deny the effects trauma can have on people.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Well let's hope women today are more proactive then in the past. It's no secret there's far more chance of success while things are still recent or ongoing rather than waiting years down the road.

You say that, but the fact you are happy to instantly condemn women as fantasists and gold diggers the instant such accusations are made is PRECISELY the sort of thing that makes people wait.

Hey, I get it. Take Cosby. I have some very happy early memories of Cosby, his stand up and TV shows. When the accusations against him came out my first response was disbelief. I mean, he's a generational father figure! He'd never have done that sort of thing, right? Well, it turns out that it's not great to give people the benefit of the doubt based on their social standing. Even (especially? ) the most trusted and respected people.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Of course, it's so simple! That's why there aren't decades of research and literature about why abuse victims don't leave. They're just not 'prioritizing' correctly.

So obvious sly lacking nuance or empathy.

It's the hard truth. The hardest part is getting up the courage to realize it and become proactive and taking steps sooner than later.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

You're damn right they should. My uncle used to smack the hell out of my aunt and she said, "Screw this, I'm gone".

Never looked back and was better off for it.

However it's clear people have different sets of priorities right? Bottom line is people are masters of their own fate. If you're really in a bad situation, leave.

Well isn't it wonderful that everyone has access to the same mental, financial, and social resources your aunt had. It's just that easy.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

It's the hard truth. The hardest part is getting up the courage to realize it and become proactive and taking steps sooner than later.

It's the easiest, most counterproductive judgmental stereotype and victim blaming which keeps more women feeling shamed, trapped and alone.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

I don't deny the effects trauma can have on people.

It rather sounds like you are, just so you know.