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NRA being investigated for Russian ties

ADigitalArtist

ADigitalArtist

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Estro Felino said:
Lol...why should I ?
Well...I admire Putin as politician...I know there is lots of homophobia in Russia ...unfortunately, due primarily to the Orthodox Church, and to society. Of course that saddens me a lot...I hope things can change. But Putin has never said something discriminatory about gays...btw...as far as I know:)
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He enacted laws that forbid talking about homosexuality with minors. Including anyone younger than 18 who identify as gay. It's also led to increased violence against LGBT in Russia and bans on public displays of homosexuality and things like rainbow flags. Vitaly Milonov, the original backer of the law, compares homosexuality to bestiality, with no comment to the contrary from Putin. And Putin himself put homosexuality in the same category as pedophilia during the Olympic games.
 
Father Heathen

Father Heathen

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Estro Felino said:
Lol...why should I ?
Well...I admire Putin as politician...I know there is lots of homophobia in Russia ...unfortunately, due primarily to the Orthodox Church, and to society. Of course that saddens me a lot...I hope things can change. But Putin has never said something discriminatory about gays...btw...as far as I know:)
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:facepalm:
 
Estro Felino

Estro Felino

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PopeADope said:
. Perhaps immigrants increasing the rape epidemic by over 1000% in some European countries is one of them! ;)
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It definitely is one of them
ADigitalArtist said:
He enacted laws that forbid talking about homosexuality with minors. Including anyone younger than 18 who identify as gay. It's also led to increased violence against LGBT in Russia and bans on public displays of homosexuality and things like rainbow flags. Vitaly Milonov, the original backer of the law, compares homosexuality to bestiality, with no comment to the contrary from Putin. And Putin himself put homosexuality in the same category as pedophilia during the Olympic games.
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There definitely is a problem of anti-LGBT propaganda there. do I condone it? No...
 
Father Heathen

Father Heathen

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tytlyf

tytlyf

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More info. Seems the NRA may have received political donations from Russian affiliates. The NRA makes the worst propaganda ads targeting conservatives.

The NRA Has Deep Ties to Accused Russian Spy Maria Butina

For decades, the National Rifle Association has promoted its hardline politics with appeals to patriotism, freedom, and the staunch defense of the Second Amendment. But now, the controversial gun lobbying group finds itself deeply caught up in a wide-ranging effort to sabotage American democracy by an enemy foreign power.

Federal prosecutors unsealed charges this week against 29-year-old Russian national Maria Butina, a self-styled gun activist with long-running ties to the NRA who worked for Alexander Torshin, a high-level Russian government and banking official from President Vladimir Putin’s party. Butina, who was a graduate student at American University until this spring, began traveling to the United States in 2014 and operated as a “covert Russian agent,” according to an FBI affidavit. She acted as an unregistered foreign agent and participated in a multiyear conspiracy to infiltrate conservative political groups including the NRA, federal prosecutors say, in order to “advance the interests of the Russian Federation.”
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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/07/nra-maria-butina-spying-charges-trump-campaign/
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

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Estro Felino said:
With all due respect...really...I know those are lies...

And btw...hearing negative things about Putin displeases me ...because...u know...
Italian V-PM sides with Putin
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You are officially the coolest gay Italian EVERRR!!! :sunglasses:

I thought gay European right-wingers were as rare as fairies, leprechauns, and unicorns.

Anyway, im the guy in my avatar...I can prove it via youtube...I hope I'm your type...if you turn me down there is a 99% chance ill become a serial killer :smilingimp:. alright!??

I'm not even gay, but your valiant, gallant, ballsy patriotism is turning me on! :innocent:
 
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Estro Felino

Estro Felino

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PopeADope said:
You are officially the coolest gay Italian EVERRR!!! :sunglasses:

I thought gay European right-wingers were as rare as fairies, leprechauns, and unicorns.

Anyway, im the guy in my avatar...I can prove it via youtube...I hope I'm your type...if you turn me down there is a 99% chance ill become a serial killer :smilingimp:. alright!??

I'm not even gay, but your valiant, gallant, ballsy patriotism is turning me on! :innocent:
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Lol...we are not that rare...Le Pen's secretary is gay...and in Italy we have gay nationalists as well.:)

I'm flattered...usually people here don't like my nationalism :(...well... patriotism...because it's quite misunderstood:oops:

As I explain here
https://www.religiousforums.com/threads/whats-wrong-with-nationalism.206162/#post-5528889
btw...thank u..u're cool and smart too:)
 
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tytlyf

tytlyf

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Revoltingest said:
What is there to say?
This investigation has no bearing on gun rights.
Do you think it does?
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No bearing on gun rights. It'll just expose how crooked the NRA is once it's finished. The NRA isn't the same today as it used to be decades ago. There's more 2A supporters that despise the NRA than supports it.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
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tytlyf said:
No bearing on gun rights. It'll just expose how crooked the NRA is once it's finished. The NRA isn't the same today as it used to be decades ago. There's more 2A supporters that despise the NRA than supports it.
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Who says the NRA knew the Russians were looking at them for an in?
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Bob the Unbeliever said:
Actually? Russia is so far from a Capitalist State, that it's not even amusing anymore. Cronyism. Rule by bullying, and worse. Monopolies controlled by a very small bunch of thugs, with the Thug In Chief? Putin, and trumpie is his servant.
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God that sounds like the Democrats in New York!!
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Hey the Russians make some pretty hearty weapons. A civilian version of the AK and a free Yugo thrown in with every purchase.
 
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