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O Muslims, why do not you eat pork ?

leibowde84

leibowde84

Veteran Member
DawudTalut said:
Please read # 4 above post 27

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4=People also have something to say about this animal:

a--- "" Pig-related idioms
A number of idioms related to pigs have entered the English language.
Several of these idioms refer to the negative qualities traditionally ascribed to pigs. Thus, pigs are commonly associated with greed of various forms.
Pigs in popular culture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia""

b---http://Why You Should Consider Not Eating Pork | Collective-Evolution

c---http://Pig & Pork Facts


All this is found and said by wise people after life experiences .....AND....it is same as God said.



I, humbly, have hard time with [ because people's testimony and scriptures both are given..]


Back to Original Post, It is superiority of Islam and Holy Quran that they give directives and tell the wisdom too....In this case, wisdom of not eating pork is given by All-Knowing Allah the Exalted in the word used for it. i.e. Khinzir (Su-ar)

""One matter to be kept in mind in this context is that in the very name of this animal, God has indicated the reason for the prohibition of its flesh. The Arabic word for swine is Khinzir which is a compound of Khanz and Ara, which means: I see it very foul. Thus the very name that God Almighty gave to this animal at the beginning points to its uncleanness. It is a curious coincidence that in Hindi this animal is called Su’ar, which is a compound of Su’ and Ara. This also means: I see it very foul. It should not be a matter of surprise that the Arabic word Su

should have found its way into Hindi. We have established in our book Minanur-Rahman, that Arabic is the mother of all languages and that many Arabic words are to be found in all languages. Thus Su’ is an Arabic word and its equivalent in Hindi is bad. This animal is also called bad in Hindi. There is no doubt that at the time when Arabic was the universal language this animal was known in this country by an Arabic name which was synonymous with Khinzir, and so it has continued to this day. It is possible that in Sanskrit this word might have undergone some transformation, but the true word is Khinzir which proclaims its own meaning. It is not necessary to enter into a detailed exposition of the foulness of this animal. Everyone knows that it eats filth and is utterly shameless. Thus the reason for the prohibition of its flesh is obvious, as by the law of nature its flesh would have a foul effect on the body and the soul of one who eats it. As we have already demonstrated food affects a person’s soul and there can be no doubt that the flesh of such a foul animal would also be foul. Even in pre-Islamic times, Greek physicians had opined that the flesh of this animal particularly damages the faculty of modesty and fosters shamelessness.""

[Ref: Post 16 of "The Philosophy of Teachings of Islam" @ alislam.org]
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The reason why people associate pigs with these negative attributes is a product of Islam and Judaism teaching them to be accurrate. You have this backwards. And, why would this act to show anything about eating pork as being immoral?

I'll try to simplify the issue a bit. You have provided examples of how pigs are associated with negative aspects of humanity linguistically. Linguistics or language is a 100% man-made invention. So linguistic connotations merely show that people have a bad view of something, in this case pigs. But, that is easily explained by the fact that 2 of the most common religions in the world have outlawed eating them. So, this would say nothing about the reasoning behind the notion that eating pork is "immoral".
 
1robin

1robin

Christian/Baptist
Servant_of_the_One1 said:
Dude you need english lessons!
As for Pork, Jesus peace be upon him didnt eat that :)
Clearly u dont follow jesus!
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I do not think not eating pork was a theological rule in the OT testament. If you do not cook pork to a certain heat level it contains a bacteria that can cause harm. I think that was a practical law not a religious law. Besides those Levitical type laws ceased to apply when Jesus rose from the dead and since we can reliable heat pork high enough to kill the bacteria it is no longer a problem. .
 
leibowde84

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Servant_of_the_One1 said:
Dude you need english lessons!
As for Pork, Jesus peace be upon him didnt eat that :)
Clearly u dont follow jesus!
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There are a lot of aspects of Jesus' life that the Church does not follow. For example, Jesus and his followers lived in a completely socialistic society. Everyone contributed what they had and resources were distributed according to need during his life (or so the Bible claims).
 
Servant_of_the_One1

Servant_of_the_One1

Well-Known Member
leibowde84 said:
There are a lot of aspects of Jesus' life that the Church does not follow. For example, Jesus and his followers lived in a completely socialistic society. Everyone contributed what they had and resources were distributed according to need during his life (or so the Bible claims).
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Ah thanks for comfirming that Church dont follow the son of Mary .
 
jonathan180iq

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
leibowde84 said:
Pretty much ... cuz people claim in scripture (the Bible and the Quran) that "God says so". Not very convincing, huh?
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Not at all, which is why I would like for some of those who refrain from eating pork to describe why they do so. Is it only because a book says it's bad?
 
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JFish123

Active Member
Servant_of_the_One1 said:
Dude you need english lessons!
As for Pork, Jesus peace be upon him didnt eat that :)
Clearly u dont follow jesus!
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"The voice spoke from heaven a second time, 'Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.' I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean."
It is alright to eat pork in Christianity for God made it clean. But if a muslim or anyone thinks it's not, then he doesn't have to eat it for himself.
 
dust1n

dust1n

Zindīq
1robin said:
I do not think not eating pork was a theological rule in the OT testament. If you do not cook pork to a certain heat level it contains a bacteria that can cause harm. I think that was a practical law not a religious law. Besides those Levitical type laws ceased to apply when Jesus rose from the dead and since we can reliable heat pork high enough to kill the bacteria it is no longer a problem. .
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Um, why would heating pork up to 160 degrees with a fire be anymore difficult than it is now? Also, basically any raw animal one can eat contains a bacteria that can cause harm, yet only pork it outlawed?
 
Debater Slayer

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
mahasn ebn sawresho said:
This question to Muslims
The reason for my writing to the subject is the following incident
Muslims living outside the Islamic countries
But they have faith in the details
I am now in the non-Muslim country
But I am at work I got to know some Muslims
We and our ethics, we offer eating to friends
And we share in this
Muslim gave me a piece of eating, one of the pastry
He accepted participation and ate with him and thanked him for it
A few days later I brought food from home, a pastry on the way in which the Iraqi meat
It submitted a piece to that Muslim
It was delicious
But after a quarter of an hour he came running and told me
Are you a Christian I told him yes
Here's my Is Atamtna pork ??
I told him
(What is the problem is we are in a Muslim country) Why are you afraid?
I told him politely and respect
I take your sin doomsday
Surprised by Muslims reject pork ??
And eat camel meat ??
Just a question

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The problem is that you offered pork to someone who doesn't eat pork while knowing that their religion forbids it. That's discourteous. If you were offended that they didn't eat what you wanted, get over it. The world doesn't revolve around your desires.
 
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Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
Guys, you're questioning a harmless belief here :)

Let's call it a truce and say it's because the believers doing it because they trust God. I personally do it, the subject at hand, because of that reason.

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