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Obama is just an utter disaster for this world

Buttercup

Veteran Member
What would you have preferred? Leave personnel so another Benghazi scenario could happen? So, We evacuate personnel to safety and that's the wrong choice too?
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
I would prefer he wouldn't be such an utter disaster.

I would prefer that he wouldn't exude weakness which the US' enemies are pouncing on.

I would prefer that Islamic terrorists such as ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaida, not have a free pass to reign because Obama does nothing productive, other than supply taxpayer income to golf courses.
 

Thruve

Sheppard for the Die Hard
I would prefer he wouldn't be such an utter disaster.

I would prefer that he wouldn't exude weakness which the US' enemies are pouncing on.

I would prefer that Islamic terrorists such as ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaida, not have a free pass to reign because Obama does nothing productive, other than supply taxpayer income to golf courses.


/vote
/approve
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Islamic militia group says it has 'secured' US compound in Libya | Fox News#

His recklessnes and idiocy is tearing the world apart.

He is in way over his head.

You really believe that? So, an American president you actually think can control events in another country many thousands of miles away?

Hey, just be glad that McCain ain't president or we would have already invaded Libya, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and probably several Boy Scout dens. And Romney couldn't care less about them unless it interfered with his moving money out of the U.S. and put into foreign bank accounts so he wouldn't have to pay much in American taxes.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I would prefer he wouldn't be such an utter disaster.

I would prefer that he wouldn't exude weakness which the US' enemies are pouncing on.

Why don't you make some specific proposals? Ever time I hear this rhetoric coming from someone on the right, when they're asked specifically what should specifically be done, all they do is sit and twittle with their navels.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
I do not concur.

We are having an utter disaster.

ISIS is torturing and mudering thousands if not tens of thousands of christians.

Terrorists are jumping int he pool of the Libyan US compound.

Hamas is being supported by the Obama Administration.

Russia is doing anything it wants because it knows there is nobody in the White House.

It's an utter disaster because Obama is in way over his head and it totally incompetent for the position.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I do not concur.

We are having an utter disaster.

ISIS is torturing and mudering thousands if not tens of thousands of christians.

Terrorists are jumping int he pool of the Libyan US compound.

Hamas is being supported by the Obama Administration.

Russia is doing anything it wants because it knows there is nobody in the White House.

It's an utter disaster because Obama is in way over his head and it totally incompetent for the position.

You have just proven my point: criticisms minus any serious suggestions.

Obama's Middle East policy is cautious, which it should be (how many times did we support groups there only to find them fighting us?). With the Ukraine, do you believe we should get into war with Russia? If not, what do you specifically suggest? Should we invade Libya? Syria? Iraq?
 
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Phil25

Active Member
I do not concur.

We are having an utter disaster.

ISIS is torturing and mudering thousands if not tens of thousands of christians.

Terrorists are jumping int he pool of the Libyan US compound.

Hamas is being supported by the Obama Administration.

Russia is doing anything it wants because it knows there is nobody in the White House.

It's an utter disaster because Obama is in way over his head and it totally incompetent for the position.
Obama's policy of vacationing at Martha's Vineyard(sarcasm) gives the image of a weak US. This gives Putin and Islamists the image, that US wont do much whatever they do. With the current state of affairs, I wouldnt be surprised if Russia conquers the whole Ukraine and heck even Baltics, and we find Obama still at Martha's Vineyard.
We should be sending troops to Ukraine, but we wont even have to fire single shot at Russia. Just the presence of a few thousand US troops, would be strong enough for Russia to stop going deeper into Ukraine and stop any planned future playing with Baltics. Russia knows it cant afford a direct War with US and its aggression in E. Europe should stop.
 

averageJOE

zombie
Obama's policy of vacationing at Martha's Vineyard(sarcasm) gives the image of a weak US. This gives Putin and Islamists the image, that US wont do much whatever they do. With the current state of affairs, I wouldnt be surprised if Russia conquers the whole Ukraine and heck even Baltics, and we find Obama still at Martha's Vineyard.
We should be sending troops to Ukraine, but we wont even have to fire single shot at Russia. Just the presence of a few thousand US troops, would be strong enough for Russia to stop going deeper into Ukraine and stop any planned future playing with Baltics. Russia knows it cant afford a direct War with US and its aggression in E. Europe should stop.

Are YOU going to be one of those thousand troops?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Obama's policy of vacationing at Martha's Vineyard(sarcasm) gives the image of a weak US. This gives Putin and Islamists the image, that US wont do much whatever they do. With the current state of affairs, I wouldnt be surprised if Russia conquers the whole Ukraine and heck even Baltics, and we find Obama still at Martha's Vineyard.
We should be sending troops to Ukraine, but we wont even have to fire single shot at Russia. Just the presence of a few thousand US troops, would be strong enough for Russia to stop going deeper into Ukraine and stop any planned future playing with Baltics. Russia knows it cant afford a direct War with US and its aggression in E. Europe should stop.

Notta good idea. For one, the minute we even begin to start sending troops there, Putin's logical response would be to invade all of the Ukraine immediately before we're anywhere near in position. Secondly, do you really want a situation that could easily lead to a nuclear confrontation? Is it really worth it?

What Putin probably wants is the more Slavic section of the Ukraine as he sees that this is Russia's domain, and to me the best move on our part is to do what we jointly with the EU have been doing, but probably even upping the ante even more, which may be the result after Obama visits the Baltic states later this week.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Damn Obama! He makes me so mad every time I watch FOX that I just want to stomp my footsie or something! Just stomp my footsie! Oooh! He makes me so mad!

Use the full title please: the "Fox Propaganda Channel for Right-Wing Nuts".;)
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
Obama's policy of vacationing at Martha's Vineyard(sarcasm) gives the image of a weak US. This gives Putin and Islamists the image, that US wont do much whatever they do. With the current state of affairs, I wouldnt be surprised if Russia conquers the whole Ukraine and heck even Baltics, and we find Obama still at Martha's Vineyard.
We should be sending troops to Ukraine, but we wont even have to fire single shot at Russia. Just the presence of a few thousand US troops, would be strong enough for Russia to stop going deeper into Ukraine and stop any planned future playing with Baltics. Russia knows it cant afford a direct War with US and its aggression in E. Europe should stop.
Maybe we are better off with Obama being constant vacations rather than coming up and screwing things up even worse.
 

Drolefille

PolyPanGeekGirl
Guys, I don't care whether you like Obama or hate him, but if you think any President is every actually "on vacation" and not running things, you're deluded. Neither Bush and his brush at the ranch nor Obama at the Vineyard nor either of them at Camp David are ever actually not working. They're still making decisions. This has basically always been the case, and is even more so the case with modern telecommunications.

So love him, hate him, whatever but don't be ignorant!
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The up coming mid terms are just too importiant now to bother with such trivial happenings in the world. Thats all that matters. Screw everything else.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Now that the "Fox this" & "Fox that" are out of the way,
let's look at some positives:
- No war with Iran
- No war in Syria
- No war in Ukraine
- No escalation in Iraq or Afghanistan

It could be worse.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Guys, I don't care whether you like Obama or hate him, but if you think any President is every actually "on vacation" and not running things, you're deluded. Neither Bush and his brush at the ranch nor Obama at the Vineyard nor either of them at Camp David are ever actually not working. They're still making decisions. This has basically always been the case, and is even more so the case with modern telecommunications.

So love him, hate him, whatever but don't be ignorant!
The Republican party back in 2008 declared war on President Obama stating that their #1 desire was to make him a one term President. Not much has changed except in the Senate where their unwillingness to govern caused Sen. Reed to change the rules in a very modest way.

This contrasts sharply with California where we had a significant number of bills passed with input from both parties and we're much better off because both parties were more interested in governing rather than yelling "no" all the time.
 
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