Obama is just an utter disaster for this world

[CMike]

What specific sanctions or actions did he preform or pass that has caused "disaster"? I don't want a generalized answer saying "the economy is bad!" because the economy was bad before he became president and we are becoming more and more aware of the reasons that the recovery is so slow. And none of it is the president's fault anywhere near as much as congress and the past 40 years of shoddy legislation.

It's beeen almost eight years, the blaming on Bush thingie doesn't work anymore.

Let's deal with the present.

ISIS has been mass murdering thousands of christians in the most barbaric way. This occurred because Obama totally pulled out of Iraq creating this vacuum.

In Israel he is backing the Hamas terrorist governming.

Russia has been exceedingly aggresive because they know nothing will occur from Obama.

Syria has gassed and murdered thousands of civilians.

A US ambassador was killed in Bengazi when he could have prevented by allowing special forces to protect the people there.

The world has gone to hell, and Obama has led it occur by his utter weakness.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

It's beeen almost eight years, the blaming on Bush thingie doesn't work anymore.

Let's deal with the present.

ISIS has been mass murdering thousands of christians in the most barbaric way. This occurred because Obama totally pulled out of Iraq creating this vacuum.

In Israel he is backing the Hamas terrorist governming.

Russia has been exceedingly aggresive because they know nothing will occur from Obama.

Syria has gassed and murdered thousands of civilians.

A US ambassador was killed in Bengazi when he could have prevented by allowing special forces to protect the people there.

The world has gone to hell, and Obama has led it occur by his utter weakness.

First off I wasn't simply "Blaming bush". The fact of the matter is what occured and what we did to help the situtaion hasn't helped as much as it should have due to other factors.

As for the rest of it I propose my question to you again.
Do you simply plan on putting our young American men and women in harms way by placing them permanently around the world? Is your answer military, military and then more military?

 

[angellous_evangellous]

We cannot afford to win another foreign war either.

I never thought of it like that, because I am convinced that if the United States starts another war, it will be impossible to overcome the allied states that will be unified against us. It will be impossible to fund - both in terms of blood and treasure.

It would be rather easy to destroy the USA's ability to make war if our creditors simply refused to lend us money.

 

[esmith]

First off I wasn't simply "Blaming bush". The fact of the matter is what occured and what we did to help the situtaion hasn't helped as much as it should have due to other factors.

As for the rest of it I propose my question to you again.
Do you simply plan on putting our young American men and women in harms way by placing them permanently around the world? Is your answer military, military and then more military?

What alternative do you see?

 

[averageJOE]

What alternative do you see?

Encourage the Iraqi Army to stand up and fight for their own freedoms and survival, and support them politicaly and ethically.

 

[icehorse]

Encourage the Iraqi Army to stand up and fight for their own freedoms and survival, and support them politicaly and ethically.

AND, encourage other regional powers that it's time for them to stand up as well.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

What alternative do you see?

Letting the world deal with its problems and focusing on diplomatic resolutions to most problems. Either declare war or get out. Notice nothing we have done in the past two decades is actually a "war" effort in the traditional sense. It has been conflicts with no clear end point and no real goal.

If we do get involved in conflicts of this sort it should be done jointly with either the UN or another ally.

 

[CMike]

What specific sanctions or actions did he preform or pass that has caused "disaster"? I don't want a generalized answer saying "the economy is bad!" because the economy was bad before he became president and we are becoming more and more aware of the reasons that the recovery is so slow. And none of it is the president's fault anywhere near as much as congress and the past 40 years of shoddy legislation.

It's more what he hasn't done.

He has shown weakness to America's enemies, and they have capitalized on it i.e. Russia, ISIS, Hamas, N. Korea, etc.

 

[Monk Of Reason]

It's more what he hasn't done.

He has shown weakness to America's enemies, and they have capitalized on it i.e. Russia, ISIS, Hamas, N. Korea, etc.

People will do things all around the world. Just because we don't invade or nuke someone every couple of years doesn't mean that we have shown weakness.

But I want to answer without dodging this time. What would you have him do if not permanently place boots on the ground all around the world?

 

[Brickjectivity]

It's more what he hasn't done.

He has shown weakness to America's enemies, and they have capitalized on it i.e. Russia, ISIS, Hamas, N. Korea, etc.

Russia is an ally, a member of NATO. N. Korea is a big nothing, and as long as it doesn't invade our allies it can keep being a big nothing. ISIS is a fantasy designed to draw USA into conflict over a lot of sand, a bunch of bloodthirsty pranksters in over their heads. They have nothing that we want.

 

[Phil25]

Russia is an ally, a member of NATO. N. Korea is a big nothing, and as long as it doesn't invade our allies it can keep being a big nothing. ISIS is a fantasy designed to draw USA into conflict over a lot of sand, a bunch of bloodthirsty pranksters in over their heads. They have nothing that we want.

Sorry but Russia is hardly an ally and is not a member of NATO. And ISIS is not from fairy tales.

 

[icehorse]

I believe ISIS would love nothing more than for the US to come lumbering back in to the region.

Hooray to Obama for exercising patience, restraint, and thoughtfulness, taking the heat, and not acting like the child bush was.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Sorry but Russia is hardly an ally and is not a member of NATO. And ISIS is not from fairy tales.

Oh, Russia isn't in NATO. My mistake.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I believe ISIS would love nothing more than for the US to come lumbering back in to the region.

Hooray to Obama for exercising patience, restraint, and thoughtfulness, taking the heat, and not acting like the child bush was.

This has me wondering -- is the world calling for Obama and his cabinet to be tried for war crimes?

By the way, this is a current issue - http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...e-bush-for-war-crimes-says-ex-u-s-terror-czar

 

[Brickjectivity]

Is the world wanting the USA to be their generic militia? If so they must pay taxes and send conscripts.

 

[metis]

Very easy for the arm chair generals to say.

They weren't on the ground trying to get him.

We were a 100% to go into Iraq and depose Saddam Hussein.

Cheney was right on the money as usual.

Ya, Cheney was so "right" that he refused to testify in a Congressional investigation, which could have led to impeachment had it not been only months before his second term was up. Plus he got extremely angry with Bush for not pardoning Scooter Libby, who illegally disclosed Valerie Plame's CIA connection. Ya, Cheney was so "right" that Bush wanted nothing to do with him after they left office, and why do you think that is?

Let me give you two recommendations: see Cheney for what he really was and is and, secondly, don't go hunting with him.

 

[metis]

The world has gone to hell, and Obama has led it occur by his utter weakness.

Did you ever stop and actually think about the conditions he inherited? As Tom Brokaw stated in Obama's first term, no previous American president inherited so many serious problems all at once. Some problems that presidents had to face were worse, such as with Washington and FDR, but to have so many all going sour at the same time, including the tremendous danger of us possibly slipping into a depression?

BTW, how are your stocks doing? How is it that our unemployment is down to 6.1% whereas western Europe is still in double-digits. How does it feel not to have many American soldiers coming home in body-bags because Obama doesn't feel that we should be the world's policeman?

But those who watch the Fox Propaganda Channel will never know the real news.

 

[YmirGF]

This has me wondering -- is the world calling for Obama and his cabinet to be tried for war crimes?

By the way, this is a current issue - UN Could Prosecute Bush for War Crimes, Says Ex-U.S. Terror Czar

I love interviews like this. There are so many ways to spin what the guy is saying...

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I love interviews like this. There are so many ways to spin what the guy is saying...

I have a friend that says in times like these:

**** that donkey till it screams!

I think the reason his words are conflated is because of who he is and the great number of people who want to see Bush and company face some kind of consequence for their crimes - it's music to their ears.

The thing is, we can do it or God can do it. If I were Bush and co., I'd rather face human judgement in this life rather than divine judgement in the next.

 

[metis]

It's more what he hasn't done.

He has shown weakness to America's enemies, and they have capitalized on it i.e. Russia, ISIS, Hamas, N. Korea, etc.

Nonsense.

About five weeks ago on Bill Maher's "Real Time", a Tea-Party representative and a Republican adviser made the same claims, and Maher asked them what they would do. They gave a generic "He needs to lead...". But Maher refused to let them off the hook, and asked them to be specific point-by-point, and they couldn't answer the questions.

It's easy to make nonsensical generalizations, but much more difficult to offer specific ideas, especially ideas that make at least some sense.