Obama on Trump

[esmith]

That is a joke, right? And you voted for that supposedly "compassionate conservative", "W", right? Nuff said.

Obama has the problem since he won the election. Sorry I don't read your mind, who is "W". No not a joke, the Obama's favorability ratings are around 45%.

 

[YmirGF]

That's not what he was discussing. Rather he was commenting on what everybody knows (or should know), and that is that Trump has support from angry middle-class white men. Personally I wouldn't have made comments about Trump, but about his supporters supporting the thing they are angry about, which is a business tycoon who has has his hand in politics and buys politicians, ships jobs overseas, and is a player in corporate-lead politics (albeit a smaller player).

I find it incredibly amusing that you are most likely serious.

 

[columbus]

"If you don't agree with my policies or excuses for policies it is probably because you are a racist?"

Listened to and read it. Sorry, Tom. It utterly failed to impress me.

But you condensed it to a remark about racism. Is that the most important thing you think he said? The rest you seemed to gloss over.
Tom

 

[Underhill]

I don't know how anyone can look at the last 7 years and not see racism.

 

[YmirGF]

"If you don't agree with my policies or excuses for policies it is probably because you are a racist?"

But you condensed it to a remark about racism. Is that the most important thing you think he said? The rest you seemed to gloss over.
Tom

Oh, you must mean the piffle about his failures on the illegal invasion of migrants? I suppose some would see that as a silver-lining.

 

[esmith]

I don't know how anyone can look at the last 7 years and not see racism.

True there is racism among a very small percentage of the American public and this racism is not, and I repeat not, only limited to whites. What the majority of complaints are about are the Obama;s policies not his race.

 

[Sunstone]

That's not what he was discussing. Rather he was commenting on what everybody knows (or should know), and that is that Trump has support from angry middle-class white men.

Did you happen to see Nate Sliver's analysis of the polls re: Trump? The edge that Trump has over the other Republican candidates is entirely composed of relatively uneducated white men -- the blue collar workers who used to be middle class because they once had good paying union jobs in factories. Remove those from Trump's support, Silver points out, and Trump polls neck and neck with Rubio.

 

[Altfish]

As a Brit I find this conversation hilarious.
Trump (because Obama is not white) has been calling him a liar for years about his birth certificate; as soon as Obama responds to Trump in a rational way, the GOP goes wild.

FFS I hope you don't elect Trump he'll have started World War 3 within months and the economy will be wrecked. This 'genius' businessman who has been declared bankrupt numerous times and would have made more money if he'd just stuck his inheritance in a saving account.
Horrible man.

 

[metis]

Obama has the problem since he won the election. Sorry I don't read your mind, who is "W". No not a joke, the Obama's favorability ratings are around 45%.

Which is significantly higher than Congress' rating, btw.

"W" is a reference to G. W. Bush.

Also, as far as the 45% rating is concerned, didn't you notice that both Joe & Mary Citizen are in a rather ugly mood when it comes to our Washington politicians? Why is it that the top Republican candidates are not "establishment-types", and are commanding over 60% in the most recent poll? How's Boehner doing? McConnell? But what does one expect when they've only been the "Party of No" for seven straight years, now with the worst voting record in terms of legislation passed since this country was founded?

"Obama's problem" is that he has had literally not help from the Republican-controlled Congress that has even voted against legislation that they previously supported. Some were even been involved in ribbon-cuttings that they had voted against back in 2009-10-- the height of utter hypocrisy.

Hey, but what should we expect from a party whereas the majority of candidates and those Congress believe that climate change is a hoax, as is the Theory of Evolution they believe. Jindal and Graham once said that they look like "the Party of Stupid", and I would suggest that there's a good reason for that image.

 

[metis]

I don't know how anyone can look at the last 7 years and not see racism.

I have no doubt that some of what we see is involved, but it's impossible to say how much. According to the FBI, there were more death threats against the Obama's in their first three years in the White House than any previous president's full terms of office. Since this happened right off the bat after elected, one logically cannot blame it on his policies.

 

[Underhill]

I have no doubt that some of what we see is involved, but it's impossible to say how much. According to the FBI, there were more death threats against the Obama's in their first three years in the White House than any previous president's full terms of office. Since this happened right off the bat after elected, one logically cannot blame it on his policies.

I agree it is hard to quantify, but the outrage over Obama stating what is plainly true is a bit over the top. He doesn't say that is THE problem, but it is part of the problem.

 

[Underhill]

As a Brit I find this conversation hilarious.
Trump (because Obama is not white) has been calling him a liar for years about his birth certificate; as soon as Obama responds to Trump in a rational way, the GOP goes wild.

FFS I hope you don't elect Trump he'll have started World War 3 within months and the economy will be wrecked. This 'genius' businessman who has been declared bankrupt numerous times and would have made more money if he'd just stuck his inheritance in a saving account.
Horrible man.

I know a large number of Republicans who feel the same way about Trump.

The sad part is, the best candidates the republicans had have either dropped out, or might as well for all the chance they have right now....

 

[sun rise]

Obama has the problem since he won the election. Sorry I don't read your mind, who is "W". No not a joke, the Obama's favorability ratings are around 45%.

If you look at historical rankings, that's very decent since it compares to Ronald Reagan, for example.

Obama’s 47% job approval in January placed him right between George W. Bush (33%) and Bill Clinton (63%) at similar points in their second terms – 2007 and 1999, respectively. It was also comparable to Reagan’s rating of 49%, at the same point in his presidency in January 1987, when he was embroiled in the Iran-Contra affair. Eisenhower had a 57% approval rating at the start of his seventh year in office (January 1959).

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/02/16/presidential-job-approval-ratings-from-ike-to-obama/

 

[BSM1]

Did you happen to see Nate Sliver's analysis of the polls re: Trump? The edge that Trump has over the other Republican candidates is entirely composed of relatively uneducated white men -- the blue collar workers who used to be middle class because they once had good paying union jobs in factories. Remove those from Trump's support, Silver points out, and Trump polls neck and neck with Rubio.

But isn't this still a poster child of Obama's failed leadership? He has had seven years to fix this problem ( including two years of a Democrat controlled Congress) and it has gotten worse. He is reaping exactly what he has sown.

 

[metis]

But isn't this still a poster child of Obama's failed leadership? He has had seven years to fix this problem ( including two years of a Democrat controlled Congress) and it has gotten worse. He is reaping exactly what he has sown.

"Failed leadership"? Really, compared to where we've been?

 

[esmith]

"Failed leadership"? Really, compared to where we've been?

In Your opinion

 

[Shadow Wolf]

He has had seven years to fix this problem ( including two years of a Democrat controlled Congress) and it has gotten worse

In what ways? In many ways, things have gotten better. Such as a dire need in overhauling our healthcare system: it wasn't perfect but at the same time we're much better off than before. There were also the many jobs saved by the auto bailout that happened early into his presidency. There was also the bill for community college.

 

[BSM1]

In what ways? In many ways, things have gotten better. Such as a dire need in overhauling our healthcare system: it wasn't perfect but at the same time we're much better off than before. There were also the many jobs saved by the auto bailout that happened early into his presidency. There was also the bill for community college.

So what happened to the rest of us?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

In Your opinion

Failed leadership is when you ignore threats and lie to your nation about them, go on a ghost-hunt of a war, and never admitting to any wrong doing.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

So what happened to the rest of us?

That isn't answering the question I asked.