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October 7, 2024 - Meditation on One Year Anniversary of October 7 Massacre

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
..or so it is claimed by Netanyahu and co.

Yes, it is a fact that a "military operation" was carried out by Hamas, and civilians were killed.
How many were killed by "monsters", and how many killed by IDF policy, we don't rightly know.

We do know that Netanyahu and co. invited the press a few days later to see the evidence.
..and we do know that they disallow press in the occupied territories.

It's a war of disinformation. Who knows, the lapse of security could have even been intentional. :expressionless:
Terrorists attacked civilians at a concert, the whole world knows.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
And to Israel.
This is why the conflict endures.
No. The conflict endures because Palestinians want Israel wiped off the face of the Earth. when they stop wanting that then maybe Israel will stop oppressing them. Ya think??? If a group of people move next to you that want you dead are you gonna help them?
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
And to Israel.
This is why the conflict endures.
Israel thinks God gave them the land. Do you really think the Arabs who believe in Allah are going to stand for that? Of course not. They have a different God. I’ve always heard it was a holy war. I’m Starting to believe it. The Arabs should’ve shared their little sliver of land after 6 million Jews were gassed in Europe, but no they want it ALL because their God tells them that it’s theirs.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Israel is doing the right thing by standing up to terrorists who have wanted Israel gone for a long time. Rather than the Arabs welcoming the Jews and sharing a sliver of their land after the Holocaust with compassion they’ve chosen to stay bitter and full of hatred. It’s sad that so many civilians have to die but the terrorists hide behind civilians. So it’s not Israel that’s committing genocide, it’s in fact Hamas. Most of the west supports this reality.
Israel is doing a hell of a job so far on three fronts and guaranteed there's going to be more before all is said and done.
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
If a group of people move next to you that want you dead are you gonna help them?
If at any time, they would want them dead, it is now .. they are committing genocide, and
have destroyed most of their buildings and infrastructure.
Gaza was already under their control .. it's all an illusion.

The policy of eliminating Israel, refers to eliminating the Israeli STATE, and not the people!
The Palestinians have not got a state to eliminate, so..
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Israel is doing a hell of a job so far on three fronts and guaranteed there's going to be more before all is said and done.
Yup all over a sliver of land. The Jews God tells them that the land is theirs the Arabs God tells them that the land is theirs. It’s a holy war. Goofy. It’s like two kids fighting over a toy.
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
Is there a difference?
What?? Are you for real?

When one nation conquers another, they should not kill all the inhabitants, they should
become part of the new state .. not held in limbo indefinitely, in refugee camps.

There is something fundamentally wrong with Israel, and that's why it cannot succeed .. in the long run.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
What?? Are you for real?

When one nation conquers another, they should not kill all the inhabitants, they should
become part of the new state .. not held in limbo indefinitely, in refugee camps.

There is something fundamentally wrong with Israel, and that's why it cannot succeed .. in the long run.
When those held in refugee camps, decide that Israel has a right to exist then maybe they can get along. But for now they want Israel dead.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
If at any time, they would want them dead, it is now .. they are committing genocide, and
have destroyed most of their buildings and infrastructure.
Gaza was already under their control .. it's all an illusion.

The policy of eliminating Israel, refers to eliminating the Israeli STATE, and not the people!
The Palestinians have not got a state to eliminate, so..
So they want to eliminate the Israel state and not the people huh? Again, my question is,
Is there a difference?
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
If at any time, they would want them dead, it is now .. they are committing genocide, and
have destroyed most of their buildings and infrastructure.
Gaza was already under their control .. it's all an illusion.

The policy of eliminating Israel, refers to eliminating the Israeli STATE, and not the people!
The Palestinians have not got a state to eliminate, so..
:facepalm:
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No. The conflict endures because Palestinians want Israel wiped off the face of the Earth. when they stop wanting that then maybe Israel will stop oppressing them. Ya think???
You have the order reversed.
End the oppression first.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Israel thinks God gave them the land. Do you really think the Arabs who believe in Allah are going to stand for that? Of course not. They have a different God. I’ve always heard it was a holy war. I’m Starting to believe it. The Arabs should’ve shared their little sliver of land after 6 million Jews were gassed in Europe, but no they want it ALL because their God tells them that it’s theirs.
Religion plays a role.
But fundamentally, the cause is oppression of Palestinians.
 

gotti

*Banned*
Reflection: the international community blew this latest incident way out of proportion (like they always do) when most of the world has absolutely no state in that ridiculous, obnoxious and stupid conflict.

Anyone who isn't directly involved in it should ignore and forget about both sides. The attention they get is parasitic. Media and politicians are a major part of the problem.

Big picture - this stupid conflict really doesn't matter that much in the grand scheme of things.
 
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