October 7, 2024 - Meditation on One Year Anniversary of October 7 Massacre

[Jimmy]

Then it's misleading to propose letting them fight it out.

Sometimes my realist side shines through.

 

[Revoltingest]

Sometimes my realist side shines through.

It's not realistic to leave USA out of the fight.
USA is Israel's <rhymes with witch>.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

Yes.

Which is why the USA and every other nation on the face of the earth should completely abandon Israel.

Enough is enough.



Yep.

I don't think I will agree completely with this , as I think all nations should actually work together, in a future with the most potential... The Christians, the Jews, the Muslims, all have religions that fit together like puzzle pieces.. They are supposed to show God, in my view, that some kind of synergy on earth is possible.. And I think all, or most religious views actually harmonize.. Though that gets into the more spiritual side to the views I hold..

 

[Jimmy]

It's not realistic to leave USA out of the fight.
USA is Israel's <rhymes with witch>.

Well I guess the Jews and Arabs each need support

 

[gotti]

Even where you live?

Yeah might be fun. And kinda funny.

 

[gotti]

Well I guess the Jews and Arabs each need support

Well too bad.

The Middle East should help themselves as far as support goes.

The civilized world is busy with our own problems.

 

[Revoltingest]

The civilized world is busy with our own problems.

And creating problems elsewhere.
Perhaps you're unaware, but USA is in the throes
of massive corruption, waste, failing democracy,
failing education, & fomenting of violence around
the globe. That doesn't sound so civilized.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Israel is doing the right thing by standing up to terrorists who have wanted Israel gone for a long time. Rather than the Arabs welcoming the Jews and sharing a sliver of their land after the Holocaust with compassion they’ve chosen to stay bitter and full of hatred. It’s sad that so many civilians have to die but the terrorists hide behind civilians. So it’s not Israel that’s committing genocide, it’s in fact Hamas. Most of the west supports this reality.

Again, this started before WWII.

 

[sayak83]

When terrorists hide behind civilians it is the terrorists that are in fact killing the civilians.

What about the Nazis. What if they had hid behind civilians and were still bringing Jewish people to the gas chamber. Should we just standby and watch it happen?

So let me get this straight. According to you Terrorists can terrorize anybody they want and hide behind civilians and no one can touch them?

How would bring Jewish people to the gas chambers if they are hiding behind civillians.
I am curious.
It is never ok to remotely bomb civillian targets even if Hitler is hiding in that building. You go in, and kill hitler diectly while saving the civillians, even if more of your soldiers are killed because of this. That is the cost of doing the right thing and not being savages. Sorry.

 

[Altfish]

War is ugly. So if the Nazis hid behind civilians and continued to gas Jewish citizens it would’ve been wrong to try to stop them? You probably won’t answer this though because somewhere deep down you know I’m right

I see you ignored the second half of my response!

Terrorists murdered 1200 civilians on Oct 7.
And yet people support hamas and what they did. Did I miss something? Has the world gone goofy?

Yes, the world has gone goofy.
Hamas is a terrorist organisation and did/does very bad things but Israel has overstepped the mark.
You say that terrorists living within the population are responsible for the deaths of the children, babies and innocent civilians. Terrorist by their nature are secretive (a bit like the IDF) they do not have a glossy new building with "Hamas HQ" plastered over it.
In NI in the 70s, many of the local population didn't even know who the terrorists were, I suspect the same in Gaza.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Terrorists attacked civilians at a concert, the whole world knows.

Israel is attacking civilians at home and in refugee camps. The whole world also knows this.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That ball is in Israel's hands.
The oppressed will never be
first to offer an olive branch.

If Israel were serious about going after Hamas they could have planted spies and went with assassinations amd ended their economic repressions and worked to improve things to win Gazans to their side to end Hamas from within. But why do that when they know big brother Uncle Sam will have their back when it comes to indiscriminately killing Middle Eastern Muslims?

 

[amorphous_constellation]

Israel thinks God gave them the land. Do you really think the Arabs who believe in Allah are going to stand for that? Of course not. They have a different God. I’ve always heard it was a holy war. I’m Starting to believe it. The Arabs should’ve shared their little sliver of land after 6 million Jews were gassed in Europe, but no they want it ALL because their God tells them that it’s theirs.

That's a key word I hear a lot when hearing about this topic: Land, land land.. You know in america, land is basically just real-estate. The person who can afford it usually gets it. But how does it work in the middle-east? Does a lot of inheritance happen there? How long do families, from any middle-eastern group, typically live on a piece of land? How do these people even live their day to day lives, on a good day?

I understand there are some interview videos of people talking on the street, but how do all of these people get through a typical day? I don't even know that, so how I can judge much, regarding the larger scale issues? All I know is that I occasionally read, or maybe see some news from out there that seems violent and sick.. That can't be what anyone wants. How would all of these people actually prefer to live, day to day, into the future, and why is there somehow a major conflict of interest with that, between all these people out there?

 

[Revoltingest]

If Israel were serious about going after Hamas they could have planted spies and went with assassinations amd ended their economic repressions and worked to improve things to win Gazans to their side to end Hamas from within. But why do that when they know big brother Uncle Sam will have their back when it comes to indiscriminately killing Middle Eastern Muslims?

US unconditional military support
does indeed alter Israel's thinking
& tactics.
And in turn, Israel's deadly brutality
& conquest reinforces US propping
up Israel.
That could very well be Israel's plan.
But my money is on un-thinking
anger, bigotry, hatred, & vengeance.

 

[icehorse]

If Israel were serious about going after Hamas they could have planted spies and went with assassinations amd ended their economic repressions and worked to improve things to win Gazans to their side to end Hamas from within. But why do that when they know big brother Uncle Sam will have their back when it comes to indiscriminately killing Middle Eastern Muslims?

 

[icehorse]

US unconditional military support
does indeed alter Israel's thinking
& tactics.
And in turn, Israel's deadly brutality
& conquest reinforces US propping
up Israel.
That could very well be Israel's plan.
But my money is on un-thinking
anger, bigotry, hatred, & vengeance.