On-duty cop ‘caught on camera shooting dead a black man he kidnapped and forced into his squad car’

[Fool]

This is an outrage! What to do now..?

On-duty cop 'brutally shot dead man he kidnapped & forced into his squad car'

goes to show you, the clothes do not make the man

 

[Audie]

Present your evidence for such a position. I believe you are extremely biased and uninformed thus not in the right place to make such statement honestly.

Do your own observation.
Its too obvious for even the most biased to miss.

 

[Audie]

You are so clueless.

I thought I just agreed with you, but I guess you
meant all cops.
And that is not extremist?

 

[Revoltingest]

Difficult to say for black cops on whites since black people aren't that numerous and underepresented in the police force. I can't recall this happening even thouh it certainly did at some point. I think the story of that Montana woman shot b the cops she called was the last time such a story broke. It made the covers of national newspapers and international ones too. The cop was punished fortunately.

I'm sure you're thinking of the Australian gal shot in Minnesota.

Black cops shooting blacks and white cops shooting whites are about equally reported and both inscribe themselves in the long history of racist violence in the US. Though the former is much less reported than the later because it happens much more rarelly.

This illustrates the problem with disparate coverage of race
in police shootings, ie, that people have a very distorted
view of the reality.
Let's consider...
Shootings By Police In The United States Of America By Race, Gender, And Age
Shootings By Police In The United States Of America By Race, Gender, And Age
Demographic Share of Americans Shot By Police in 2015
Males 95.8%
Mentally Ill 25.3%
White 50.0%
African American 26.0%
Hispanic 17.4%
Other or Unknown Race or Ethnicity 6.6%
30 to 44 years old 35.8%

Looking at the above, we see that half (by race) of all those
shot by cops are white. We may safely assume that most
cops are white. It follows that it's very likely that most of
those whites were shot by white cops. Would you agree?
If so, then it extremely far from being rare...it's the norm.

It also points out that gender bias is much worse than
racial bias, with men being killed at a rate of 20:1.

 

[Fool]

You're really gonna get it for this thread.
Many of our leftish friends are in denial about the
media making race an issue only when it's a white
cop shooting a black victim. Blacks killing blacks,
& whites killing whites won't register in the news.

Point out their mischievous agenda...& that will get
one accused of having an agenda.

race is an issue; when those wearing uniforms treat people differently. those who swear to uphold the law are wolves in sheeps clothing.


how do you expect the law to work; if itself is mentoring, fostering, modeling an unlawful society?


do as i say and not as i do?


HYPOCRISY

 

[Audie]

I'm sure you're thinking of the Australian gal shot in Minnesota.

This illustrates the problem with disparate coverage of race
in police shootings, ie, that people have a very distorted
view of the reality.
Let's consider...
Shootings By Police In The United States Of America By Race, Gender, And Age
Shootings By Police In The United States Of America By Race, Gender, And Age
Demographic Share of Americans Shot By Police in 2015
Males 95.8%
Mentally Ill 25.3%
White 50.0%
African American 26.0%
Hispanic 17.4%
Other or Unknown Race or Ethnicity 6.6%
30 to 44 years old 35.8%

Looking at the above, we see that half (by race) of all those
shot by cops are white. We may safely assume that most
cops are white. It follows that it's very likely that most of
those whites were shot by white cops. Would you agree?
If so, then it extremely far from being rare...it's the norm.

It also points out that gender bias is much worse than
racial bias, with men being killed at a rate of 20:1.

Gotta get the cops to carrying more of those guns that can be planted to justify the shooting if women are going to be equally represented.

 

[Revoltingest]

race is an issue; when those wearing uniforms treat people differently. those who swear to uphold the law are wolves in sheeps clothing.

I agree completely.
But I oppose media covering it with the agenda of
creating the impression that only blacks are the
victims & only whites are the perps.
This masks the larger problem of unjust police
violence. It's bigger than race. The gender disparity
is far bigger than race. To make it solely about
whites being racist is to ignore most of the problem.

how do you expect the law to work; if itself is mentoring and fostering an unlawful society?

Whuh?

 

[Revoltingest]

Gotta get the cops to carrying more of those guns that can be planted to justify the shooting if women are going to be equally represented.

Don't suggest affirmative action to them.
(They might like the idea.)

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm sure you're thinking of the Australian gal shot in Minnesota.

This illustrates the problem with disparate coverage of race
in police shootings, ie, that people have a very distorted
view of the reality.
Let's consider...
Shootings By Police In The United States Of America By Race, Gender, And Age
Shootings By Police In The United States Of America By Race, Gender, And Age
Demographic Share of Americans Shot By Police in 2015
Males 95.8%
Mentally Ill 25.3%
White 50.0%
African American 26.0%
Hispanic 17.4%
Other or Unknown Race or Ethnicity 6.6%
30 to 44 years old 35.8%

Looking at the above, we see that half (by race) of all those
shot by cops are white. We may safely assume that most
cops are white. It follows that it's very likely that most of
those whites were shot by white cops. Would you agree?
If so, then it extremely far from being rare...it's the norm.

It also points out that gender bias is much worse than
racial bias, with men being killed at a rate of 20:1.

And that's just the killings.
If we could add the harrassment, rapes, assaults, wrongly detained, and intimidation we'd still the police are far too corrupt, oppressive, and violent to merely dismiss them as racist. It's there, but as a part of something that more closely resembles Mccarthyism or the Gestapo the way they see enemies and threats lurking in every shadow.

 

[Revoltingest]

And that's just the killings.
If we could add the harrassment, rapes, assaults, wrongly detained, and intimidation we'd still the police are far too corrupt, oppressive, and violent to merely dismiss them as racist. It's there, but as a part of something that more closely resembles Mccarthyism or the Gestapo the way they see enemies and threats lurking in every shadow.

I recall studies showing that the problem of less-than-shooting
abuse of blacks is even worse (statistically). This was from the
Harvard guy who found no racial disparity in shootings (after
adjusting for cause).

 

[Fool]

I agree completely.
But I oppose media covering it with the agenda of
creating the impression that only blacks are the
victims & only whites are the perps.
This masks the larger problem of unjust police
violence. It's bigger than race. The gender disparity
is far bigger than race. To make it solely about
whites being racist is to ignore most of the problem.

Whuh?

the lack of empathy and compassion is the overall problem. using the excuse of holier than thou is the problem because it's based on tribalism or familalism.


so if you have a corrupt leader chances are you're going to have a corrupt community, family, church, group. because the leader will allow corruption to flourish based on their idea of what lawful and what isn't

 

[epronovost]

I'm sure you're thinking of the Australian gal shot in Minnesota.

This illustrates the problem with disparate coverage of race
in police shootings, ie, that people have a very distorted
view of the reality.
Let's consider...
Shootings By Police In The United States Of America By Race, Gender, And Age
Shootings By Police In The United States Of America By Race, Gender, And Age
Demographic Share of Americans Shot By Police in 2015
Males 95.8%
Mentally Ill 25.3%
White 50.0%
African American 26.0%
Hispanic 17.4%
Other or Unknown Race or Ethnicity 6.6%
30 to 44 years old 35.8%

Looking at the above, we see that half (by race) of all those
shot by cops are white. We may safely assume that most
cops are white. It follows that it's very likely that most of
those whites were shot by white cops. Would you agree?
If so, then it extremely far from being rare...it's the norm.

It also points out that gender bias is much worse than
racial bias, with men being killed at a rate of 20:1.

There is indeed a big gender bias against men in the justice system who are also punished more severely as they are perceived as "more dangerous". It's also important to note that men are also over represented in the cateory of violent criminals, though not 20 to 1 more like 8 to 1 which seems to imply a certain amount of bias against men. I suspect it's due to the fact police officers perceive male suspect as inherently more threatening than female suspect even if they are equally violent thus prompting a more violent reponse. The same phenomenon could also explain the difference in treatment of black men who are perceived as more threatening and danerous than white men with the same kind of behavior.

Yes, the majority of police shootings are against white men and the majority of police shooting are considered as fair and defensible and not really news worthy. As mentionned before, most police shooting aren't reported. What's reported is suspicious or downright criminal use of force and that touches racial minorities much more often than white people though the example of that Australia born white woman who was shot and killed by a black police officer stand out for making international news and being a bit of an odity in the style.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I recall studies showing that the problem of less-than-shooting
abuse of blacks is even worse (statistically). This was from the
Harvard guy who found no racial disparity in shootings (after
adjusting for cause).

What I truly do not understand is cops killin blacks is pretty much the only focus amd anything else is just to not get it.
But Native reserves have long served as the personal shooting galleries of cops and federal agents.
Women have been raped roadside. Detained, coerced, and raped.
White males have had absurd and confusing commands barked and them and are executed at the slightest hint on failure to comply.
The mentally ill often executed, especially those with profound cases (dementia, psychosis, and schizophrenia especially).
Thinking racism against blacks is "the issue" and once solved will make them better is horribly misguided. Sort of like how defunding them is a typical misguided American way of thinking in the belief money alone will fix the problems.
We have a system that can only be fixed by rebuilding it from the ground up and overhauling it from top to bottom.

 

[Cooky]

Prosecution sounds like a good start.

I'm loving the 'the media won't report this story I found in the media' vibes.

It should be 24 hour breaking news coverage on CNN by now. Police Chief is giving a public address at what time?

...Oh wait. None of that is happening..?

 

[Revoltingest]

What I truly do not understand is cops killin blacks is pretty much the only focus amd anything else is just to not get it.
But Native reserves have long served as the personal shooting galleries of cops and federal agents.
Women have been raped roadside. Detained, coerced, and raped.
White males have had absurd and confusing commands barked and them and are executed at the slightest hint on failure to comply.
The mentally ill often executed, especially those with profound cases (dementia, psychosis, and schizophrenia especially).
Thinking racism against blacks is "the issue" and once solved will make them better is horribly misguided. Sort of like how defunding them is a typical misguided American way of thinking in the belief money alone will fix the problems.
We have a system that can only be fixed by rebuilding it from the ground up and overhauling it from top to bottom.

If abuse & killing of blacks were reduced to the same
rates as for whites, this would be a miserable failure.

 

[Cooky]

so if you have a corrupt leader chances are you're going to have a corrupt community, family, church, group. because the leader will allow corruption to flourish based on their idea of what lawful and what isn't

That's how some communities are. The better ones don't. I know what I strive to be like, and it's not following a path of corruption, regardless of leader.

 

[epronovost]

That's how some communities are. The better ones don't. I know what I strive to be like, and it's not following a path of corruption, regardless of leader.

The danger mostly come when a leader or a community develops a warped view of what corruption is a bit like in the fable about the emperor's new clothes.

 

[Yerda]

It should be 24 hour breaking news coverage on CNN by now. Police Chief is giving a public address at what time?

...Oh wait. None of that is happening..?

OK, point taken.

There's a lesson here for all the peeps on the left, right, up, down and elsewhere: news corporations are businesses peddling bespoke reality for a consumer demographic.

They don't say: well, here's an event in the world and here we are reporting it for you, Joe Public. They say: here's an event packaged in a way you, our viewers, want it wrapped. Hey, what are those racists/wokes like? Also, buy the following things which our data wizards say are tracking well on your brand of social media. Jingle.

You want a free and fair press? Probably get it to hell away from multinational conglomerates and comic-book-villain-esque billionaires.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

You're really gonna get it for this thread.
Many of our leftish friends are in denial about the
media making race an issue only when it's a white
cop shooting a black victim. Blacks killing blacks,
& whites killing whites won't register in the news.

Point out their mischievous agenda...& that will get
one accused of having an agenda.

Strong words --- but I can't help but agree.

 

[Augustus]

The fact that you are objectively wrong and when presented with evidence of it, you refuse to read (cause it's too long) is extremely ironic.

What is the evidence?