Only Three States Approved Same Sex Marriage By "Popular Vote"

[GoodbyeDave]

No more than bakery workers can make the cakes they want to.
It is a continuing assault on our religious liberties.

Let us take this to its logical conclusion. A baker is (according to you) entitled to refuse to bake a cake for a gay couple. Would you approve if they refused ta bake a cake for you because you're a Jew?

 

[tytlyf]

Why are your sources always RW fringe outlets?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Why are your sources always RW fringe outlets?

Do you really need to ask?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Your religious liberties end where other people's freedoms and liberties start, and vice versa. All too often, religious people are over-reaching and claiming greater liberties than is just and fair to all.

Yup. Tell they have to share society, that they can't legally discriminate, that they can't run the show, and that they have to follow the law like everybody else at suddenly it's an attack on their religious liberty because the only acceptable way to approach freedom of religion is to grant themselves special privileges and rights that nobody else has and letting themselves dictate things they have no business being involved in. "Gay Jim Crow" and trying to put Creationism into public science classes are to fine examples where they don't want freedom and equality but the ability to control it and take it upon themselves to decide for the rest of society. They way some of the scream and wail and cry, you'd think there was a gun being held up to their head and someone forcing them to accept evolution and have sex with someone of the same sex.

 

[TheBannerofHomuraAkemi]

Im glad the US has a president and congress that appointed a staunch conservative Supreme court justice "Neil Gorsuch" and will do so again when justice Kennedy retires soon, bringing the court to a 5/4 conservative majority.

Very soon Same Sex Marriage and Roe v Wade will be reversed.

Forcing your religious views on other is exactly what Jesus wanted. I read it is in the bible. I swear.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Forcing your religious views on other is exactly what Jesus wanted. I read it is in the bible. I swear.

Yeah. It's like Jesus never said "be not of this world."

 

[ImmortalFlame]

It never works like that. When religious organizations conduct marriages in accordance with their rules, some one gets offended that they can't get their marriage done the way they want to do it. No more than bakery workers can make the cakes they want to.
It is a continuing assault on our religious liberties.

When have people complained about religious organizations conducting private marriage ceremonies?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

When have people complained about religious organizations conducting private marriage ceremonies?

If people were going to sue religious organizations over their marriage rules, you'd think it would have already happened at least a few times over the last half-century to any of the religious denominations that prohibit remarriage after divorce.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Let us preform the summoning ritual, so that he may appear.

@Sunstone, our lord, may you appear before us with your wisdom!
@Sunstone, is there a chance of Obergefell vs Hodges being repealed? Please, answer us m'lord.

You know he's going to want some kind of offering. God's usually expect those kind of things. *Grin*

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

It never works like that. When religious organizations conduct marriages in accordance with their rules, some one gets offended that they can't get their marriage done the way they want to do it. No more than bakery workers can make the cakes they want to.
It is a continuing assault on our religious liberties.

An assault on our religious liberties would be a case where two consenting adults are not allowed to marry one another because it runs counter to someone else's religious beliefs.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Your religious liberties end where other people's freedoms and liberties start, and vice versa. All too often, religious people are over-reaching and claiming greater liberties than is just and fair to all.

They also tend to be pretty selective about which religions get to exercise liberty. I notice that @Akivah didn't seem to give any regard to the religious groups that uphold and practice same-sex marriage.

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

They also tend to be pretty selective about which religions get to exercise liberty. I notice that @Akivah didn't seem to give any regard to the religious groups that uphold and practice same-sex marriage.

I would also suspect that many would be against compulsory circumcisions or banning of pork products due to religious beliefs. That polyester-cotton blended T-shirt you want to buy? Sorry, it can't be sold because it has mixed fibers. Good-bye Red Lobster, won't be eating there anymore (not that I want to anyway).

It is also interesting that those who are vocally against gay marriage being legal are also stridently opposed to the establishment of Sharia law in the US. Apparently, if the sauce is good for the goose it is not good for the gander.

 

[Skreeper]

You know it.

Edit: Upon reading more of @Truth7t7's posts I have decided something.
I am invoking the holy power of Poe's Law!

Unfortunately he is not a Poe.
Truth7t7 is well known on other discussion boards (CF and Carm) for his extremist views about homosexuality. At one point he even suggested the death penalty for gay people.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to him, bigots like him don't deserve it.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Unfortunately he is not a Poe.
Truth7t7 is well known on other discussion boards (CF and Carm) for his extremist views about homosexuality. At one point he even suggested the death penalty for gay people.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to him, bigots like him don't deserve it.

I suspect he's a closet case.

 

[Curious George]

The Supreme Court is supposed to be non-partisan, and the president and all conservative legislators are fools for bringing politics into what is supposed to be a branch of government that is completely apolitical. BTW, same sex marriage and Roe v. Wade are here to stay, so get used to it.

Unfortunately, Roe v. Wade has been eroded. There are continued pushes for this erosion. I doubt it will go anywhere, but that doesn't mean that hurdles to abortion won't become insurmountable.

 

[fantome profane]

I suspect he's a closet case.

Can’t help thinking the same thing. When somebody has a singular obsession like that for no reason, there usually is a reason.

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

Unfortunately, Roe v. Wade has been eroded. There are continued pushes for this erosion. I doubt it will go anywhere, but that doesn't mean that hurdles to abortion won't become insurmountable.

There are also pushes to defund Planned Parenthood who happen to supply affordable or free birth control to lower income women. This will only increase the number of unplanned and unwanted pregnancies.

 

[columbus]

There are also pushes to defund Planned Parenthood who happen to supply affordable or free birth control to lower income women. This will only increase the number of unplanned and unwanted pregnancies.

This is why I don't think that conservative Christians are even anti-abortion, much less ProLife.
Tom

 

[Akivah]

Let us take this to its logical conclusion. A baker is (according to you) entitled to refuse to bake a cake for a gay couple. Would you approve if they refused ta bake a cake for you because you're a Jew?

Yes. Instead of forcing someone to make something they don't want to, I'd simply take my business elsewhere.

 

[Akivah]

Why are your sources always RW fringe outlets?

Why are yours always LW fringe outlets?