Opinion on Wal-Mart to pull of of Washington D.C.

[I.S.L.A.M617]

I don't think that you should assume people would want to do that. Most people are like you and want to deserve what we get. We have pride and brains. I think people in communist countries also would prefer to work and deserve what they get, though I think that inefficient government policies and bad economies have often undermined that pride and those brains. I've only met two people with the attitude you are talking about, and both were homeless and probably not right in the head. Normal people don't think that way. That is absolutely not what I would support, however I do think unions are a necessity as well as occasional government interference. On the other hand I don't think government interference ever solves economic problems permanently.

What attitude is that? Only delusional homeless people believe in capitalism? Who's talking crazy now?

I didn't say anything about government interference... The government has no place in private business.

 

[Brickjectivity]

What attitude is that? Only delusional homeless people believe in capitalism? Who's talking crazy now?

Proof that you are just baiting and are no longer discussing.

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

Proof that you are just baiting and are no longer discussing.

I'm serious. My attitude is the exact basis of capitalism, which is the official economic structure of the country. To say the only people you've heard support capitalism are crazy homeless guys is just ridiculous, unless you live on some commune in Oregon and have never seen the outside world.

 

[dust1n]

I wouldn't call it optimism. It's a desire to get ahead and the drive to back it up, not an expectation of the best result.

Well, and I might be wrong here, but I assume most people have the desire to get ahead, but the drive to back it up, eh... Just looking at the endless consumerreport testimony from employee after employee, it seems like getting ahead, getting raises or hours, or keeping higher then a %50 retention rate in the company appears to much more difficult then your labor set up.

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

Well, and I might be wrong here, but I assume most people have the desire to get ahead, but the drive to back it up, eh... Just looking at the endless consumerreport testimony from employee after employee, it seems like getting ahead, getting raises or hours, or keeping higher then a %50 retention rate in the company appears to much more difficult then your labor set up.

It's certainly not easy; but anyone who really wants it will do whatever's necessary.

 

[Brickjectivity]

To say the only people you've heard support capitalism are crazy homeless guys is just ridiculous

That isn't at all what I said. You aren't responding to things that are said to you. You haven't been for almost the entire conversation. You respond to some other conversation that you paste over what is being said. Its like trying to talk you out of a hallucination. I can't even discuss the topic with you.

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

That isn't at all what I said.

Then what did you mean by my attitude?

 

[Reverend Rick]

Lets try to talk about the topic and not each other.

 

[Jeremy Mason]

Well it appears that Wal-Mart says it will pull out of Washington D.C. if the City Council passes the Large Retailer Accountability Act which would basically require Wal-Mart to pay minimum wages 50% above the city's current minimum wage. Of course there are exceptions and exemptions in the purposed legislation..... this was taken from the following article: Wal-Mart Threatens to Pull Out of Washington, D.C. - US News and World Report
There has always been complaints that stores that provide good nutritional groceries can not be found in low income areas of big cities. Why the City Council is basically "cutting off it nose to spite it's face" is hard to understand.

What is your opinion on the possible legislation?

Is this how you get rid of WalMart. Awesome! Let's spread the word.

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

Why would you want to get rid of a place where
1)You can buy groceries, a TV, and a shotgun under one roof
2)You can get it all for cheap
3)Handicapped and retarded people can get jobs
4)It's open 24 hours a day
I personally love Walmart. If it puts any small businesses in the gutter it's because Walmart is better. This is America, that's what it's all about. You wouldn't cut off an Olympic sprinter's leg because he's faster than you...

 

[dust1n]

It's certainly not easy; but anyone who really wants it will do whatever's necessary.

So I can take your assessment of all human conditions is that the better conditions were granted to those who really want it, and the other 1000 people just didn't want it enough? Would that be accurate?

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

So I can take your assessment of all human conditions is that the better conditions were granted to those who really want it, and the other 1000 people just didn't want it enough? Would that be accurate?

Yeah, sounds about right.

 

[dust1n]

Yeah, sounds about right.

Cool. I find it much easier to discuss these issues with laconisms, too. Not sure they yield much for me, though, personally...

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

Of course that excludes people who were born with tons of money and never had to work a day in their lives.

 

[dust1n]

Of course that excludes people who were born with tons of money and never had to work a day in their lives.

So, say, everyone tried as hard as they could to get somewhere, how exactly would the 26 and half unemployed Americans (light figure %7.6) go about this? It's already established they are at unemployment offices. What next?

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

So, say, everyone tried as hard as they could to get somewhere, how exactly would the 26 and half unemployed Americans (light figure %7.6) go about this? It's already established they are at unemployment offices. What next?

There would be no unemployed Americans if everyone tried as hard as they could...

 

[tytlyf]

There would be no unemployed Americans if everyone tried as hard as they could...

So why didn't you try as hard as you could?

 

[dust1n]

There would be no unemployed Americans if everyone tried as hard as they could...

Okay, but my question was, the 26.7 million people who are unemployed, going to the unemployment office to find work. Where exactly are they to work by virtue of trying harder? What would you suggest doing next?

Furthermore, what evidence do you have for your claim?

 

[Sunstone]

There would be no unemployed Americans if everyone tried as hard as they could...

I'm surprised it's not common knowledge that a minimum of 4% unemployment is targeted by the Fed and the government in order to make capitalism work.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm surprised it's not common knowledge that a minimum of 4% unemployment is targeted by the Fed and the government in order to make capitalism work.

Capitalism doesn't need or obey government numbers.