Outed and then driven to suicide.

[Little Dragon]

Explain how my list constitutes "transphobic propaganda". I'm just acknowledging their tactics, right?

You're promoting typical transphobic tropes.
That these "activists' are for example, forcing people to believe trans women and born women are indistinguishable. That is not what civil rights groups advocate. They ask for equity of treatment, and recognition of their gender identity.

 

[icehorse]

You're promoting typical transphobic tropes.
That these "activists' are for example, forcing people to believe trans women and born women are indistinguishable. That is not what civil rights groups advocate. They ask for equity of treatment, and recognition of their gender identity.

if you're saying civil rights groups have different tactics and agendas than trans activists, I'd probably agree

 

[fantome profane]

examples of which would be.. ?

The Family Research Council.

 

[icehorse]

You're promoting typical transphobic tropes

I don't think that's correct. All I'm doing is enumerating activist tactics, how are those tropes?

 

[icehorse]

The Family Research Council.

BINGO! That complete's my card, thank you! Took you long enough

 

[icehorse]

@Little Dragon - i'm still curious to know whether you think those tactics are winning the hearts and minds of America?

 

[Little Dragon]

if you're saying civil rights groups have different tactics and agendas than trans activists, I'd probably agree

Side step.
Nice.
However, I am not saying that. I am saying those whom advocate civil rights for trans people, do not do so to harm society or some other nefarious reason.

 

[fantome profane]

if you're saying civil rights groups have different tactics and agendas than trans activists, I'd probably agree

Do you realize how similar your arguments are to those made during the civil rights movement? Do you realize there was an uptick in violence against blacks at at that time, and there were those who blamed that violence on "black activists"?

 

[fantome profane]

BINGO! That complete's my card, thank you! Took you long enough

Birds of a feather.

 

[Little Dragon]

@Little Dragon - i'm still curious to know whether you think those tactics are winning the hearts and minds of America?

The tactics you describe, I would not consider to be actual tactics of civil rights groups and activists.
However the overall movement, to empower trans people, is underway, push back is expected. It's the nature of things.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

And this is not propaganda. Trans activists are making things worse for trans people.

Why do you suppose trans folks have felt the need to be activists in the first place?

 

[icehorse]

Side step.
Nice.
However, I am not saying that. I am saying those whom advocate civil rights for trans people, do not do so to harm society or some other nefarious reason.

I promise, I'm not trying to side step. OF everyone on your team in this thread you're coming closest to having an actual thoughtful conversation. your team members are mostly behaving like parrots.

But to your point, I would say that not everyone who works in support of trans people would be classified as trans activists.

 

[icehorse]

Why do you suppose trans folks have felt the need to be activists in the first place?

That's a decent question. Sadly, I think a lot of trans activists are just woke virtue signalers.

what do you think of the list in post #31 - do you think those tactics are helping the trans cause?

 

[Orbit]

I promise, I'm not trying to side step. OF everyone on your team in this thread you're coming closest to having an actual thoughtful conversation. your team members are mostly behaving like parrots.

But to your point, I would say that not everyone who works in support of trans people would be classified as trans activists.

Shame on you for completely derailing this thread to peddle your pet prejudice!

 

[Little Dragon]

OF everyone on your team in this thread you're coming closest to having an actual thoughtful conversation

Praise from Caesar eh?
I suspect our fellow posters have discussed this many times with you already, long before I arrived. I imagine they have already said all that they possibly could say, and without much success. I see no reason why I would be any different.

 

[icehorse]

Shame on you for completely derailing this thread to peddle your pet prejudice!

Hahaha - why was the thread started?

 

[icehorse]

Praise from Caesar eh?
I suspect our fellow posters have discussed this many times with you already, long before I arrived. I imagine they have already said all that they possibly could say, and without much success. I see no reason why I would be any different.

Still curious to hear your thoughts on the list in post #31 - do you thnk those tactics are helping win hearts and minds?

I mean if we want to reduce bigotry don't we have to win hearts and minds? I don't think it will work to try to jam "don't be a bigot" down people's throats

 

[fantome profane]

Hahaha - why was the thread started?

To inform people that there are real consequences from the kind of bigotry you spread.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

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Sad.

So was it this 1819 news organization that outed him? If so, they need to seriously reconsider what they're "about":

"1819 News is a non-profit LLC that derives its namesake from the year Alabama was founded (1819) and is a proud supporter of the state's motto, "We Dare Defend Our Rights." As we provide news for the State of Alabama, we do so with honesty, integrity, and Alabama values."

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What an incredibly tragic story.

 

[Little Dragon]

I mean if we want to reduce bigotry don't we have to win hearts and minds?

We have to convince certain people that everyone has the freedom to express themselves as they see fit.
That their prejudices and expectations, and insecurities and repression, are the problem. Not trans people nor their demands to be treated equitably and respectfully.