outrage with islam

[crimsonlung]

No, murder is wrong because it's wrong, regardless of how I was raised.

So if you grew up in a tribe in Africa where murdering humans was ok and regarded as noble and a fun pass time, you would still magically think its bad?

 

[Autodidact]

So if you grew up in a tribe in Africa where murdering humans was ok and regarded as noble and a fun pass time, you would still magically think its bad?

Wow, your extreme moral relativism might make an interesting subject for a thread.

I don't think there is anywhere in the world where murder is culturally acceptable, but that is pretty far off the thread subject. I agree that these people think this is wrong because of their culture, and that is my point. Their culture needs to be criticized for what they think is wrong.

 

[outhouse]

The Muslims you see here in the States are the nicest people you will ever meet

they are in my family, im not as stereotypical as you think.

 

[Quagmire]

On this count im not taking it in your context posted. I humbly respect your opinion.

All, im saying is there are barbaric practices that need to be STOPPED NOW!

it shows a huge weakness in mankinds ability to communicate and progress if we/they act in a primitive barbaric fashion.

So instead of a response to my post you're opting for another (or I should say the same) lecture. You do know what "debate" means, right?

I have no problem learning someones else viewpoint

It appears you do.

but if your going to use this to sugar coat crimes against humanity your barking up the wrong tree.

Why didn't you just stick you fingers in your ears and go "LALALALALALALA"?

 

[crimsonlung]

Wow, your extreme moral relativism might make an interesting subject for a thread.

I don't think there is anywhere in the world where murder is culturally acceptable, but that is pretty far off the thread subject. I agree that these people think this is wrong because of their culture, and that is my point. Their culture needs to be criticized for what they think is wrong.

And that is my point as well, outright murder for no reason is wrong, but even in the states, if someone breaks our laws, they can be executed as well, that is just a fancy word for murder. Their laws just happen to be stricter then ours.

 

[Badran]

Just wanted to say that the interpretation provided by crimsonlung while not being the regular understanding, is still a possible interpretation to the verse. Its not his personal opinion.

 

[YmirGF]

Just wanted to say that the interpretation provided by crimsonlung while not being the regular understanding, is still a possible interpretation to the verse. Its not his personal opinion.

Thank you for stating the obvious. It is, however, a marginal interpretation. You simply cannot argue that point.

 

[Badran]

Thank you for stating the obvious. It is, however, a marginal interpretation. You simply cannot argue that point.

What do you mean by marginal?

The explanations i heard for it are quite convincing, and are in context with other things in the Quran. If you mean by marginal that it is less likely, or that its based on something weak, then i disagree.

 

[outhouse]

ill debate

So you really think attempting to understand where the person sitting across the table from you is coming from is kissing butt somehow?

No i dont, its not kissing butt

"I refuse to understand you, but I'm going to judge you anyway

I understand all to well, they have been fighting for thousands of years and refuse to stop. How do you sir, judge crimes against humanity, murder and torture????

but it's a fantastic recipe for self-righteousness.

this is your opinion, not mine. why do you want to turn this thread around and point the finger at me for being outraged over this primitive barbaric action????

I know you dont condone this behaviour, hows about being the guiding light here and show us all how to solve the problem, thats more what i want to see out of this thread

 

[Quagmire]

ill debate



No i dont, its not kissing butt



I understand all to well, they have been fighting for thousands of years and refuse to stop. How do you sir, judge crimes against humanity, murder and torture????



this is your opinion, not mine. why do you want to turn this thread around and point the finger at me for being outraged over this primitive barbaric action????

It isn't about you. I was paraphrasing the principle you seemed to be endorsing for the sake of showing you what it boils down to. Whether or not you operate under this principle in RL isn't my concern.

I know you dont condone this behaviour, hows about being the guiding light here and show us all how to solve the problem, thats more what i want to see out of this thread

I doubt it.

 

[crimsonlung]

Thank you for stating the obvious. It is, however, a marginal interpretation. You simply cannot argue that point.

Marginal my ***, if it was marginal, there would be hand cutting in more than a marginal part of the Middle East. There is probably less than 5% of the Middle East that still practice Ancient Muslim Law. My cousin got caught stealing candy in Jordan and they let him have the chocolate bar after they let him go.

 

[outhouse]

It isn't about you. I was paraphrasing the principle you seemed to be endorsing for the sake of showing you what it boils down to. Whether or not you operate under this principle in RL isn't my concern.



I doubt it.

yes im PO'd about it as well but that settles nothing nor does it help this situation

this isnt just a opportunity to spread hate for muslims, theres enough of that already since we are at war with muslim terrorist.

My godfather comes from armenian muslims and this isnt a hate thread


I do however have a problem for primitive barbaric people that wont change and the religion that promotes this hatred.

 

[Quagmire]

yes im PO'd about it as well but that settles nothing nor does it help this situation

What the hell are you talking about now?

this isnt just a opportunity to spread hate for muslims, theres enough of that already since we are at war with muslim terrorist.

My godfather comes from armenian muslims and this isnt a hate thread

Listen do me a favor: don't quote my posts unless your going to respond to what they say. Using other people's posts as a springboard for a rant that has nothing to do with anything they said in the post is rude, dishonest, and ignorant.

I do however have a problem for primitive barbaric people that wont change

Yeah, me too *coughs*

 

[outhouse]

What the hell are you talking about now?

my statement was because you were partially right in that respect. I posted why

 

[outhouse]

Listen do me a favor: don't quote my posts

I thought you were going after me for my vitriol

 

[Quagmire]

my statement was because you were partially right in that respect. I posted why

In what respect? You're statement didn't address anything I said. It would be the same if I had said "The sky is blue" and you had responded "Yes, I think peanut butter tastes good".

 

[crimsonlung]

In what respect? You're statement didn't address anything I said. It would be the same if I had said "The sky is blue" and you had responded "Yes, I think peanut butter tastes good".

lmao.

 

[Quagmire]

I thought you were going after me for my vitriol

I wasn't "going after you" Again:IT ISN'T ABOUT YOU. You are not the topic of this thread and you are not the focal point of this conversation (sheesh).

 

[Autodidact]

And that is my point as well, outright murder for no reason is wrong, but even in the states, if someone breaks our laws, they can be executed as well, that is just a fancy word for murder. Their laws just happen to be stricter then ours.

Their laws are unjust. That's the issue.

 

[crimsonlung]

Their laws are unjust. That's the issue.

And your back at square one, its unjust to YOU, not just YOU personally, but western civilization and OTHER countries.

Believe it or not, other countries think we do unjust things as well