I get so very tired of people pretending to know what is "most likely" when they "most likely" have zero expertise in the matter being discussed.
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I get so very tired of people pretending to know what is "most likely" when they "most likely" have zero expertise in the matter being discussed.
You're unaware of what @Shadow Wolf knows.
She could be relying upon experts.
Consider...
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Robert Graham, chief executive of Errata Security, a cybersecurity company in Atlanta, said it was possible that hackers made the batteries inside the pagers blow up with a page containing malicious code, but that would be highly challenging. The hackers would need to know the make and model of the devices and the effect wouldn’t be as powerful as videos of the explosions suggest, he said.
Also, not all AAA (alkaline) batteries are constructed
the same. Non-vented ones can explode, although
this is quite rare. The hydrogen build-up just doesn't
appear to have the chemical or pressure energy to
cause death.
So her claim of likelihood is reasonable. Only Israel
(& possibly USA) know for sure exactly what happened.
I advise less talking **** about other posters
when you lack an informed basis.
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I think we can know one thing, at least --- at this scale, it sure as hell ain't random failures!
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Possible update on this. According to Lebanese security forces, it is believed the pagers were modified "at the production level" with around 3g of explosive, so presumably they were made and sold with the explosives inside.
SOURCE: Israel braces for retaliation after 9 killed as Hezbollah pagers explode in Lebanon
What's interesting to me is this bit (emphasis mine):
"A second security source claimed up to 3g of explosives were hidden in the devices that went “undetected” by Hezbollah for months."
How long ago were these pagers sold?
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
This is some serious next level terrorism
Most likely scenario is idd getting wind of Hezbollah placing an order for a couple thousand pagers, intercepting it and / or infiltrating the production process and booby trapping the ordered pagers. Or literally having the company that produced it do it.
Absolutely terrorism, no doubt.
But you gotta admit... quite impressive to pull something like this off...
Most likely scenario is idd getting wind of Hezbollah placing an order for a couple thousand pagers, intercepting it and / or infiltrating the production process and booby trapping the ordered pagers. Or literally having the company that produced it do it.
Absolutely terrorism, no doubt.
But you gotta admit... quite impressive to pull something like this off...
Colt
Well-Known Member
Israeli intelligence and the intelligence of the Israelis! Brilliant! Evil but brilliant!
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
People got a real hard time to claim that this endangered civilians en masse since we can all watch the videos of the explosions going off right next to civilians and them being completely fine.
Oh wait
I also bet that it's really likely that regular civilians owned pagers from a distinct Hezbollah information network.
"massive carnage" like no one can watch the videos of them blowing up and only harming the person having them on their body while everyone else is fine.
Oh wait
Yeah I bet pagers are really hip and trendy in Lebanon for some reason and not Smartphones like literally anywhere else on the planet.
I also bet that it's really likely that regular civilians owned pagers from a distinct Hezbollah information network.
"massive carnage" like no one can watch the videos of them blowing up and only harming the person having them on their body while everyone else is fine.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Because, as we all know, distributing small amounts of explosives in potentially thousands of different items and then allowing them to be dispersed, seemingly unchecked, into a largely civilian population and setting them all off can have no potential danger to the general public and is a perfectly responsible thing to do.
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ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
They don't have to. Do you think tricking people into carrying around small amounts of explosives amongst the general populace is a perfectly responsible thing to do? Just letting thousands of people carry tiny bombs with them for months, and then detonating them regardless of where they are?
Regiomontanus
Eastern Orthodox
This is, I fear, another step in laying the groundwork for an invasion of Lebanon.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
Children are dead because they were in the proximity of their dad holding such a beeper.People got a real hard time to claim that this endangered civilians en masse since we can all watch the videos of the explosions going off right next to civilians and them being completely fine.
Oh wait
Yeah I bet pagers are really hip and trendy in Lebanon for some reason and not Smartphones like literally anywhere else on the planet.
I also bet that it's really likely that regular civilians owned pagers from a distinct Hezbollah information network.
"massive carnage" like no one can watch the videos of them blowing up and only harming the person having them on their body while everyone else is fine.
If a guy with such a beeper stands in a packed crowded place while it explodes (say in a subway or on a bus or in a line somewhere or whatever - plenty of packed places in public life), then such explosion will inevitably harm people in the crowd.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
I just read an article citing "anonymous insider" sources saying that it was supposed to be the "opening move" of Israel in case of an all-out war with Hezbollah.
According to said source, some Hezbollah members noticed that something was up with the pagers and so they had them detonated fearing the whole plot would be uncovered.
Kind of hard to assess the truthfulness of "anonymous" sources off course.
It certainly sounds plausible. But unless an insider wistleblower steps forward with actual evidence of what happened when and why, I'm guessing such stories are the best we'll get.
Regiomontanus
Eastern Orthodox
"The Arab-American news site Al-Monitor first reported that Israel had intended to wait until just before a full-scale war to launch the attack, but made a last-minute decision to detonate the pagers after at least two Hezbollah members suspected something was wrong with the devices.
Three U.S. officials confirmed to Axios that the secret operation went ahead early because of fears that it was about to be discovered by terrorist group.
"It was a use it or lose it moment," said one U.S. official."
Oh my.
Israel cares not if the injured & killed are only Muslims.People got a real hard time to claim that this endangered civilians en masse since we can all watch the videos of the explosions going off right next to civilians and them being completely fine.
Oh wait
Yeah I bet pagers are really hip and trendy in Lebanon for some reason and not Smartphones like literally anywhere else on the planet.
I also bet that it's really likely that regular civilians owned pagers from a distinct Hezbollah information network.
"massive carnage" like no one can watch the videos of them blowing up and only harming the person having them on their body while everyone else is fine.
As long as some Hamas members die, all those around
them can be sacrificed. Israel killed 2 children. Israel
kills many many children. But it's OK if they 're not Jews, eh.
Pager Attack on Hezbollah Puts Israel and Lebanon on Edge: Live Updates
The Lebanese armed group blamed Israel for blowing up pagers, killing 11 and injuring thousands. The Taiwanese company some officials named as the manufacturer sought to distance itself from the devices.
You appear unaware that pagers are still used by innocent people.
So Israel's attack was indiscriminate, ie,
it's terrorism as a tool of war & vengeance.
Shame on you.
Shame on all Zionists who devalue the lives of non-Jews.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
I didn't get it from there, but likely it was picked up from there.
The rumor mill is turning full force off course.
Hard to know at this point what is real and what isn't.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
And I get so tired of people doubting me. I work on electronics, I've made and programmed a robot, I have a good idea of what Im talking about.
And, some walkie talkies blew up. These are definitely booby trapped devices that were intercepted amd worked on by a rather large crew (military very likely) in haste to plant the explosives and rig them to blow on command.
He pretends to know all about you.
It's all about defending Israel's deadly vengeance.
And I worked in electronics and imbedded software for over three decades. I'm so excited that you made a robot.