And this from someone who complains that foreign forces enter Muslim countries and impose their ideology. I guess you think it's only ok when Muslims do it?
Name one example when muslims have invaded any of these countries to impose their ideas. In case you didnt notice, Its not us who need forceful imposition to influence our rule on people, Islam spreads without boundaries, it wins the hearts, not the resources. And as it happens, we are naturally gifted with plenty of natural resources. Thats another debate as to how do all the resources end up in Us, Eu and anywhere else except the needy muslim countries.
Seriously, do you think the way to go here is some twisted version of "might makes right"? Because before you do I want you to think really hard about what would happen if Europe and the US actually thought of the Muslim countries as a real threat.
Not at all, its you and all those who sided with your thinking voicing that 'there should be no islamic countries' who believe that. Now unless you use an atomic bomb or impose a colossal war to get to that wishful aim, is another thing, i only said that, by the number of the muslim population, its a very far fetched idea that a minority athiestic secular believing authority will find easy acceptance on the muslim lands without any significant resistance, even if they used soft tempting , showers of economic aids.
This is what is actually happening right NOW, that most muslim govts. are allies with the Us and Europe owing to the minimal economic aid they get out of them apart from the protection they enjoy by the big powers in support of their rule. The major chunk of the aid unfortunately being usurped entirely at the top corrupt level, having no impact on the actual economy.
Whats the next paln? People are already fed up of the corruption and insensitivity of the corrupt elitist govt. i don't think all the drama is lasting any long. And then there's unjustified crackdown on some muslims lands all over the world, how long do you think the power show by the violent oppressors is going to last?
Hint: From a military and/or economic perspective there is no Muslim country, or gathering thereof, that even vaguely compares to neither Europe nor the US. If I were you I'd try rational discussion instead...
Who's denying the comparison to the economic hit europe and Us right now? And who says that muslim countries look forward to such a collapsing system? lets assume Us is the most prosperous country in the world, its govt. with a very productive, profitable economy. You do know however how deeply indebted the US govt is. The gross debt amounting to 1.9 trillion dollars, increasing every year. Who suffers then? the people who are heavily taxed for the magnanimous expenditures incurred in wars, defense systems, funding of NASA, security agencies, and etc.
The Us govt. literally drinks the blood of its people by exorbitant taxes. Most people live their lives indebted one way or they other, who wants that kind of system? Not me. On the other hand, there are several very good measures running in the system which are very much in line with the Islamic systme, i.e the social security system, but in Islam that goes without exorbitant taxes.
And now coming to Afghanistan, it has no economy, do i need to list the reasons? But i do need to point out, that the system incorporated in the entire west , although has several merits, but is Not what we look forward to, If we lift up our economy.
The islamic system basically empowers the public so much, that the greedy, power drunk elites forming the govts. of the muslim countries at this point are not in favour of it. The Islamic Caliphates centuries ago, were fine examples of it, where the head of the state was probably the poorest man in the state, inspite of being highly learned and highly capable of running a system. Can any other nation mirror that? I don't think so.
The scale of success, justice and prosperity are entirely different for the muslims, heads of the state in this day, enforce their impression through show of money, army, weapon and defence systems. The epitome of an Islamic system, is the prosperity of people and the prevalence of justice in the society. That is not currently being followed since sharia is not being followed anywhere at the moment, and there is a lot of injustice in the muslim world at public level.
Works fine for me, but in either case I think the picture from the article says all that needs saying. It was taken in London by the way.
Ahh what a peaceful quiet protest, i thought you had nothing against freedom of speech!
but really, this is just a scare tactic, with strong disapproval from the muslim side in the same article,
"While strongly condemning the publication of these caricatures, we also unequivocally condemn those who are urging violent protests or inciting hatred against others," Hizb-ut-Tahrir spokesman Imran Waheed told PA.
The organization held a less aggressive protest in London on Saturday, which passed off without incident.
Oh man... You're a creationist too? This is priceless...
I'd love to show you what an ignorant position that is, but unfortunately that is not for this tread.
Would love that, lets just time it in heaven some place, while having tea with God at my side, I and God would have a lot of time at our hands to see how you prove against the creation while you are down there in, err a different place. I'm serious, If you promise to stick to your explanation and prove it to me in the afterlife, i'm up for it. I doubt though at that time you will even remember what evolution is.
, oh but i guess darwin will be around there to help you figure.
Well, it certainly seems to have spooked you.
Lol, there's nothing much to fear from athiests, harmless people, who firmly believe in the right of offensive speech, no threat from them, they have sufficient self limiting threats within themselves, homosexuality for instance
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