Palestinians under attack

[ametist]

do you know for how many years muslims and jews lived together normally? no hate whatsoever?
this isnt a islam-jew thing,if anything new hasnt been added into any religions.
pls first check if anything NEW added to your religion and see if it prompted any counter 'religious' rhetoric use in the charter.
see how fine you kept the UN resolutions as the strong party, how much you cared about international law while implementing about settlements,bombings and attacks etc.
why have you given an opportunity to any palestinian to vote for hamas? when people are fine and happy nothing can force them into war.nobody is THAT radical. Why were palestinian unhappy? too much economic and political oppresion that brought the case to kill or die? unemployment,under education,no internet,water, anything else?
what else do i think about that famous charter? i think it is ridiculous to the affect thinking about israel's military power and how much it can still be backed up.

 

[metis]

I've made specific suggestions before, but I no longer will. It is
up to the parties involved to look past their certainty that the
other will forever be a deadly foe, & to find common ground.

What's the alternative?
1) Palestinians strike.
2) Israelis strike back.
3) Palestinians strike back.
4) Go to step 2.
How has this strategy been work'n for ya so far?
Do you think the results will change at some point?

You have not answered my question, so let me suggest you actually attempt to do so. Again, what would be your response if someone threatened to kill you and your family and acted on that threat, and then how would you "negotiate" with such an element when they have made it abundantly clear that the death of you and your family is not negotiable?

 

[Flankerl]

do you know for how many years muslims and jews lived together normally? no hate whatsoever?

Thats not true. Its not even that difficult to research all the pogroms in the muslim world against Jews.

You dont even have to leave your house to do so.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

do you know for how many years muslims and jews lived together normally? no hate whatsoever?

Before or after 1492?

(In truth, I suspect I know the history a good deal more than you do.)

 

[metis]

do you know for how many years muslims and jews lived together normally?

That's quite a white-wash of history.

this isnt a islam-jew thing,if anything new hasnt been added into any religions.

Actually it is as Hamas is a radical Islamic organization that firmly believes that the Hadith mandates that if a particular area was Islamic, it must always remain Islamic.

 

[ametist]

Thats not true. Its not even that difficult to research all the pogroms in the muslim world against Jews.

You dont even have to leave your house to do so.

fine whatever. believe whateve you want.

 

[Revoltingest]

You have not answered my question....

Well, spluh...I explained it.

....so let me suggest you actually attempt to do so. Again, what would be your response if someone threatened to kill you and your family and acted on that threat, and then how would you "negotiate" with such an element when they have made it abundantly clear that the death of you and your family is not negotiable?

In this scenario, defend & negotiate.

Back to my questions....
What's the alternative?
1) Palestinians strike.
2) Israelis strike back.
3) Palestinians strike back.
4) Go to step 2.
How has this strategy been work'n for ya so far?
Do you think the results will change at some point?

 

[CMike]

I haven't read it. But it's a mistake to seek out & dwell upon reasons to
continue fighting. Whatever it says, what matters is the reason they're
motivated to violence....it must be addressed.

The reason is because Israel exists.

It doesn't have to be rational.

 

[ametist]

Before or after 1492?

(In truth, I suspect I know the history a good deal more than you do.)

it is good that you are using your knowledge usefully as well. war in every 3 years.

 

[CMike]

I've made specific suggestions before, but I no longer will. It is
up to the parties involved to look past their certainty that the
other will forever be a deadly foe, & to find common ground.

What's the alternative?
1) Palestinians strike.
2) Israelis strike back.
3) Palestinians strike back.
4) Go to step 2.
How has this strategy been work'n for ya so far?
Do you think the results will change at some point?

It beats palestinians strike. Israel doesn't defend itself.

Palestinans strike again and again and again and again until all the jews are killed there and Israel no longer exists.

Sometime the military option is the only option other than death.

 

[metis]

Well, spluh...I explained it.

Which post, please?

In this scenario, defend & negotiate.

Back to my questions....
What's the alternative?
1) Palestinians strike.
2) Israelis strike back.
3) Palestinians strike back.
4) Go to step 2.
How has this strategy been work'n for ya so far?
Do you think the results will change at some point?

I will right after I read your response.

 

[ametist]

That's quite a white-wash of history.



Actually it is as Hamas is a radical Islamic organization that firmly believes that the Hadith mandates that if a particular area was Islamic, it must always remain Islamic.

they believe whatever they wish like you. so why dont you get along when you are so alike? LOL

 

[Revoltingest]

It beats palestinians strike. Israel doesn't defend itself.
Palestinans strike again and again and again and again until all the jews are killed there and Israel no longer exists.
Sometime the military option is the only option other than death.

So is the military approach the only Israeli solution?

 

[CMike]

So is the military approach the only Israeli solution?

Other than death...yup.

There is no one to negotate with. The "palestinian" government has made it clear they want the other side DEAD.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Well, spluh...I explained it.


In this scenario, defend & negotiate.

Back to my questions....
What's the alternative?

Lebanon.

 

[Revoltingest]

Other than death...yup.

There is no one to negotate with. The "palestinian" government has made it clear they want the other side DEAD.

What's disappointing is that your view isn't fringe....it's mainstream.
Moreover, it looks impossible to stop the US from subsidizing the carnage.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

What's disappointing is that your view isn't fringe....it's mainstream.

So is Pollyannaish ignorance about Hamas. Both are repulsive and dangerous.

 

[Revoltingest]

So is Pollyannaish ignorance about Hamas. Both are repulsive and dangerous.

You know about them what you want to know, ie, that they cannot change.
This is not knowledge. It's rationalization of continued oppression & war.

 

[metis]

Revoltingest, are you going to answer my questions and supply me with the post number where you supposedly answered them or are you going to just continue on with your charade?

 

[loverOfTruth]

What's disappointing is that your view isn't fringe....it's mainstream.
Moreover, it looks impossible to stop the US from subsidizing the carnage.

Agree with you ... and here's some example of that ...
Images from Gaza should trouble every Israeli - OpinionIsrael News - Haaretz Israeli News source