Palestinians under attack

[metis]

This is all rather amusing.
Fellow posters, please excuse my wallowing in personal drama & making mirth with this guy.
I'll stop being such a jerk soon.

So, you find this "rather amusing"? I really think that the deaths of both Israelis and Palestinians is tragic, and am trying to discuss what seriously may be done to try and bring this bloodshed to a close. Apparently serious discussions on serious subjects that involves people's lives just isn't your thing.

Anyhow, post whatever else you want because I'm now officially outta here for a while. Hope you enjoy your self-serving amusement.

 

[Revoltingest]

So, you find this "rather amusing"?

Only your antics are amusing.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

It is being widely reported that …

Netanyahu informed US Secretary of State John Kerry that he decided to accept the temporary truce proposal on Friday night, according to the US officials.

According to reports, during the 12-hour truce, the IDF will continue its work on locating terror tunnels, but will not carry out explosions of the tunnels and will hold its fire.

- source

I've seen no report suggesting that Hamas will respect the truce.

 

[Levite]

It is being widely reported that …I've seen no report suggesting that Hamas will respect the truce.

Supposedly the Israeli cabinet has agreed to a 12-hour cease-fire truce (called for by the UN), but has rejected Kerry's broader permanent cease-fire proposal as being too biased toward Hamas.

Hard to judge without actually seeing the proposals, which I have not been able to find online-- likely not released yet.

 

[CMike]

Supposedly the Israeli cabinet has agreed to a 12-hour cease-fire truce (called for by the UN), but has rejected Kerry's broader permanent cease-fire proposal as being too biased toward Hamas.

Hard to judge without actually seeing the proposals, which I have not been able to find online-- likely not released yet.

If Kerry was involved I am pretty confident it was biased toward Hamas.

I wonder how many minutes it will take until Hamas violates it.

 

[CMike]

Supposedly the Israeli cabinet has agreed to a 12-hour cease-fire truce (called for by the UN), but has rejected Kerry's broader permanent cease-fire proposal as being too biased toward Hamas.

Hard to judge without actually seeing the proposals, which I have not been able to find online-- likely not released yet.

It seems that it was rejected.

Israel rejects Kerry's cease-fire plan as deadly clashes escalate in Gaza | Fox News

Kerry’s proposal called for a temporary truce to make time for Israel and Hamas to hold indirect talks about easing the border closure of the blockaded Gaza Strip. Hamas has demanded that Gaza's crossings be opened.

Great! So Kerry things that Hamas should benefit from launching 2,000 rockets into Israeli cities.

I wonder what concessions Kerry should give Al Qaida?

 

[CMike]

Hamas attacks from hospitals

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10153404036192316&set=vb.73528002315&type=2&theater

 

[CMike]

This was great.

UN emergency session on Gaza: Hillel Neuer speaks out - YouTube

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Supposedly the Israeli cabinet has agreed to a 12-hour cease-fire truce (called for by the UN), but has rejected Kerry's broader permanent cease-fire proposal as being too biased toward Hamas.

Correct. And, as far as I can determine, it's a unilateral one, although a recently interviewed PLO spokesman assured all that it would be respected by Hamas. We'll see.

I seriously doubt that Israel will accept any extended cease-fire that enables the reprovisioning of the tunnels into Israel.

It was also reported (on CNN but without confirmation) that the Egyptians had rejected the Hamas request to open the Rafah crossing.

 

[CMike]

Maybe Hamas should bomb an Israeli hospital and really get rewarded by Kerry.

 

[Godobeyer]

I have to post back on this.

I did not call you a "liar", so you again are "lying". If you don't know the difference between "liar" and a "lying", and what the significance is of the difference between the two are, then maybe your education needs much enhancing.

As far as the rest of the post of yours that I didn't quote, it simply is another diversion tactic of yours to try and place blame on someone else.

I knwo the different between lair and lying .

lair is the person who lying

 

[CMike]

Lair is where someone lives.

 

[Moishe3rd]

This was great.

UN emergency session on Gaza: Hillel Neuer speaks out - YouTube

Indeed. That was great.

 

[beenie]

Lair is where someone lives.

Give him a break, English is not his first language.

 

[YmirGF]

Give him a break, English is not his first language.

His English is much better than my Arabic.

 

[beenie]

His English is much better than my Arabic.

Mine too!

 

[FearGod]

This article written by Michel Chossudovsky explains the real reason behind the recent war and murdering Palestinians in Gaza.


The December 2008 military invasion of the Gaza Strip by Israeli Forces bears a direct relation to the control and ownership of strategic offshore gas reserves.
This is a war of conquest. Discovered in 2000, there are extensive gas reserves off the Gaza coastline.
British Gas (BG Group) and its partner, the Athens based Consolidated Contractors International Company (CCC) owned by Lebanon’s Sabbagh and Koury families, were granted oil and gas exploration rights in a 25 year agreement signed in November 1999 with the Palestinian Authority.
The rights to the offshore gas field are respectively British Gas (60 percent); Consolidated Contractors (CCC) (30 percent); and the Investment Fund of the Palestinian Authority (10 percent). (Haaretz, October 21, 2007).
The PA-BG-CCC agreement includes field development and the construction of a gas pipeline.(Middle East Economic Digest, Jan 5, 2001).
The BG licence covers the entire Gazan offshore marine area, which is contiguous to several Israeli offshore gas facilities. (See Map below). It should be noted that 60 percent of the gas reserves along the Gaza-Israel coastline belong to Palestine.


Reference : War and Natural Gas: The Israeli Invasion and Gaza’s Offshore Gas Fields | Global Research

 

[sandandfoam]

This article written by Michel Chossudovsky explains the real reason behind the recent war and murdering Palestinians in Gaza.


The December 2008 military invasion of the Gaza Strip by Israeli Forces bears a direct relation to the control and ownership of strategic offshore gas reserves.
This is a war of conquest. Discovered in 2000, there are extensive gas reserves off the Gaza coastline.
British Gas (BG Group) and its partner, the Athens based Consolidated Contractors International Company (CCC) owned by Lebanon’s Sabbagh and Koury families, were granted oil and gas exploration rights in a 25 year agreement signed in November 1999 with the Palestinian Authority.
The rights to the offshore gas field are respectively British Gas (60 percent); Consolidated Contractors (CCC) (30 percent); and the Investment Fund of the Palestinian Authority (10 percent). (Haaretz, October 21, 2007).
The PA-BG-CCC agreement includes field development and the construction of a gas pipeline.(Middle East Economic Digest, Jan 5, 2001).
The BG licence covers the entire Gazan offshore marine area, which is contiguous to several Israeli offshore gas facilities. (See Map below). It should be noted that 60 percent of the gas reserves along the Gaza-Israel coastline belong to Palestine.


Reference : War and Natural Gas: The Israeli Invasion and Gaza’s Offshore Gas Fields | Global Research

I don't believe it.
I accept that the reason Israel offers i.e. the rocket attacks is the real reason.
If rockets were not being fired Israel would not attack.
I do not think that this excuses a single civilian casualty but that is a separate point.
My opinion is that the deaths of civilians in Gaza as a consequence of IDF attacks is indefensible. I also believe that Hamas is a despicable organization for bringing this suffering down on the heads of its own people.

 

[Avi1001]

I just saw some videos of Gaza on TV. There has to be a better way. That alone should be a starting point for interfaith dialogue !! How can so many civilian lives be destroyed without a response ?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

If rockets were not being fired Israel would not attack.
I do not think that this excuses a single civilian casualty but that is a separate point.

Netanyahu is naturally and necessarily committed to addressing the rockets and the extensive terrorist tunnel system. He would gladly trade "calm for calm." But 'calm' for the Palestinian is a calm of degradation and oppression.