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Palestinians under attack

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Not only has Hamas attacked innocent Israeli civilians, they also killed over 100 members of Abbas' Palestinian Authority for political reasons with even more being imprisoned.

And that is the reason for the war, Palestinian voted for Hamas and Israel feels sympathy with the Palestinian people, so Israel have to murder them all. :sarcastic
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
And that is the reason for the war, Palestinian voted for Hamas and Israel feels sympathy with the Palestinian people, so Israel have to murder them all. :sarcastic

Apparently you're totally unaware of the fact that Hamas has been regularly launching missiles into Israel against civilian targets, and they have launched roughly 2200 just in the last couple of weeks while refusing to go along with any cease-fire proposals, including the recent one that they proposed.

So, whom attacked whom to start this? Which has intentionally targeted civilians? Which has ignored all the cease-fire proposals? Which celebrates when innocent civilians are killed? Which is labeled correctly as a terrorist organization? Which has killed over 100 members of their own people because of political reasons?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I wonder that Jews think that people on earth are stupid as to believe their stupid lies.

CMike offered a link to establish his point, but you haven't done anything in response except that piece of rubbish above, minus any links to support your allegations. Why is it that you stereotype a people as you have and then accused them of propagating "stupid lies"?
 

Matemkar

Active Member
Firstly, the invasionist zionist entity has been killing and displacing the Palestinian nation for 60 years. And responding to them is not a crime, thus Hamas, Islamic Jihad and others are not terrorists but they are freedom fighters.

Secondly, unlike what you claim, even this very offence was started by the zionist occupiers/settlers. You can see that in the link which brother Tashan shared. Even the Zionists' masters now admit that the kidnappings of three israelis were not made by Hamas. But, it was zionist leaders who made this false flag in order to attack Ghaza (Hamas).

Lastly, the so-called ceasefire proposal does not make any sense unless the zionist entity agrees to all the conditions of Palestinians. Otherwise, such a "ceasefire" would mean the continuation of killings and displacings of Palestinians, zionist settlements, etc. And it would be illogical if Hamas and Islamic Jihad accepted such a "ceasefire".
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
CMike offered a link to establish his point, but you haven't done anything in response except that piece of rubbish above, minus any links to support your allegations. Why is it that you stereotype a people as you have and then accused them of propagating "stupid lies"?

And who has to defend the lies, they have even accused virgin Mary of beهing a whore.

The link and his opinion is biased and doesn't make sense to any sane observer, it is similar to post a video showing an Israel army beating the Jews to prevent them from entering their shelters.

Those kind of lies is disgusting,because it belittles the human mind.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Firstly, the invasionist zionist entity has been killing and displacing the Palestinian nation for 60 years. And responding to them is not a crime, thus Hamas, Islamic Jihad and others are not terrorists but they are freedom fighters.

Secondly, unlike what you claim, even this very offence was started by the zionist occupiers/settlers. You can see that in the link which brother Tashan shared. Even the Zionists' masters now admit that the kidnappings of three israelis were not made by Hamas. But, it was zionist leaders who made this false flag in order to attack Ghaza (Hamas).

Congrats on inventing your own "history", and Hamas was launching rockets and missiles into Israel against civilian targets even before the kidnappings and deaths.

Lastly, the so-called ceasefire proposal does not make any sense unless the zionist entity agrees to all the conditions of Palestinians. Otherwise, such a "ceasefire" would mean the continuation of killings and displacings of Palestinians, zionist settlements, etc. And it would be illogical if Hamas and Islamic Jihad accepted such a "ceasefire".

Israel cannot and will not recognize all Hamas' demands, so if an unconditional cease-fire is not agreed upon by Hamas whereas negotiations can take place, then it's Hamas' choice to let more and more of their own fellow Palestinians die. Hamas is a terrorist organization that has intentionally been willing to sacrifice its own people, including some of their fellow Palestinians who belonged to el-Fatah.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Apparently you're totally unaware of the fact that Hamas has been regularly launching missiles into Israel against civilian targets, and they have launched roughly 2200 just in the last couple of weeks while refusing to go along with any cease-fire proposals, including the recent one that they proposed.

So, whom attacked whom to start this? Which has intentionally targeted civilians? Which has ignored all the cease-fire proposals? Which celebrates when innocent civilians are killed? Which is labeled correctly as a terrorist organization? Which has killed over 100 members of their own people because of political reasons?

And it is 20 days of fighting, rockets still falling in Israel and Israel respond by killing the civilians and so on and so forth.

That is stupid thing and who support it should be sick, there should be a ceasefire with peace agreement which involve freedom for Gaza.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
And it is 20 days of fighting, rockets still falling in Israel and Israel respond by killing the civilians and so on and so forth.

That is stupid thing and who support it should be sick, there should be a ceasefire with peace agreement which involve freedom for Gaza.
Israel responds by destroying missile launchers and terrorists.

Hamas is killing it's own civilians by forcing them to be human shields.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
And who has to defend the lies, they have even accused virgin Mary of beهing a whore.

The link and his opinion is biased and doesn't make sense to any sane observer, it is similar to post a video showing an Israel army beating the Jews to prevent them from entering their shelters.

Those kind of lies is disgusting,because it belittles the human mind.
Let's see that video?

I would like to see this video of the Israel army beating jews to prevent them from entering shelters.

This is especially rediculous since the vast majority of Israelis have been in shelters in the past three weeks.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
And it is 20 days of fighting, rockets still falling in Israel and Israel respond by killing the civilians and so on and so forth.

That is stupid thing and who support it should be sick, there should be a ceasefire with peace agreement which involve freedom for Gaza.

This is Hamas' doing, so the solution is for Hamas to be removed one way or another and be replaced with something other than another terrorist organization. I don't think Hamas will change as we've seen them attack Israel over and over again with the results being much the same. This is a radical terrorist organization that is so willing to sacrifice the security of their own people, and I hope the Palestinians there eventually replace them.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
Firstly, the invasionist zionist entity has been killing and displacing the Palestinian nation for 60 years. And responding to them is not a crime, thus Hamas, Islamic Jihad and others are not terrorists but they are freedom fighters.

Secondly, unlike what you claim, even this very offence was started by the zionist occupiers/settlers. You can see that in the link which brother Tashan shared. Even the Zionists' masters now admit that the kidnappings of three israelis were not made by Hamas. But, it was zionist leaders who made this false flag in order to attack Ghaza (Hamas).

Lastly, the so-called ceasefire proposal does not make any sense unless the zionist entity agrees to all the conditions of Palestinians. Otherwise, such a "ceasefire" would mean the continuation of killings and displacings of Palestinians, zionist settlements, etc. And it would be illogical if Hamas and Islamic Jihad accepted such a "ceasefire".
1) Israel didn't invade. All five arab countries invaded Israel in 1948.

2) There never has been a muslim palestinian nation there

3) Israel doesn't at all say that Hamas didn't kidnap the teenagers. The so called article in the link quotes "anonymous palestinian sources" whom say that. In other words they made it up.

4) Israel pulled completely out of Gaza I believe in 2005. They even forefully removed Israelis from Gaza which I feel was a travesty.

Gaza in the meatime received billions of dollars in aid. It even got aid from Israel.

Gaza could have used this aid to build a paradise, instead they used this money to build an underground tunnel system to be used for terror and for rockets.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Israel responds by destroying missile launchers and terrorists.

Hamas is killing it's own civilians by forcing them to be human shields.

And this kind of thinking is destructive.

So you don't prefer peace agreement to involve freedom for Gaza and hence Israel have to keep on killing the civilians while Hamas striking Israel with rockets.:clap
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
I see Hamas as a symptom of the problem, rather than the problem itself.
Were they to go away tomorrow, some other violent organization would
fill the void. So the issue is not who is the bogeyman, but why is the bogeyman.
Because jews exist and they want to kill them all. And this is because that's what they have been taught in their schools.

You can't rationalize with the irrational.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
"When the bodies of three Israeli teenagers, kidnapped in the West Bank, were found late last month, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu did not mince words. "Hamas is responsible, and Hamas will pay," he said, initiating a campaign that eventually escalated into the present conflict in the region.

But now, officials admit the kidnappings were not Hamas's handiwork after all."

Hamas Didn?t Kidnap the Israeli Teens After All -- NYMag

From your link.

Citing Palestinian sources and experts in the field, Frenkel reported that kidnapping three Israeli teens would be a foolish move for Hamas

In other words they made it up.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Let's see that video?

I would like to see this video of the Israel army beating jews to prevent them from entering shelters.

This is especially rediculous since the vast majority of Israelis have been in shelters in the past three weeks.

Because it is stupid to fabricate and post such kind of videos.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
The Israeli army doesn't hide behind it's women and children when it attacks.

Hamas does.
So Israel army killed the women and childern because Hamas hide behind them !!!! so where suppose Hamas ground , in the sea ?

Let me ask you a repeated question, lets suppose that you work for Israeli Army :
Q1- if you someone shot you from skyscraper full of Arab civilians would you destroy that skyscraper because of him ? "YES/NO"

Q2- if you someone shot you from skyscraper full of Jews civilians would you destroy that skyscraper because of him ? "YES/NO"

I guess your answser would not be far than this : Q1=YES,Q2=NO

is am right ?
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
So Israel army killed the women and childern because Hamas hide behind them !!!! so where suppose Hamas ground , in the sea ?

Let me ask you a repeated question, lets suppose that you work for Israeli Army :
Q1- if you someone shot you from skyscraper full of Arab civilians would you destroy that skyscraper because of him ? "YES/NO"

Q2- if you someone shot you from skyscraper full of Jews civilians would you destroy that skyscraper because of him ? "YES/NO"

I guess your answser would not be far than this : Q1=YES,Q2=NO

is am right ?

You mean like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE7ykidY7FA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6a112wRmBs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUeSE3WWX_M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTArVIHDelg

I think these are hard decisions. The paramount responsibility of the IDF is to protect it's own citizens. Yet, they are aborting shooting at terrorists whom are intentionally using human shields in order to protect their own civilians.

Israel cares more about the palestinians civilians than their own government does.
 
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