Palestinians under attack

[Matemkar]

The jews in other countries is no problem as long as they live peacefully. And the jews whose ancestors were in Palestine a century ago is not a problem either. It is the zionist occupiers that is a problem. They have invaded the land, massacred people, displaced an entire nation and etc. Other jews we have no problem.

Please see:

[youtube]Rn4ZX99Fbxs[/youtube]
Jews in Iran - YouTube

[youtube]vPEw4hsAn_M[/youtube]
Iran's Jewish Community - YouTube

ma salam

 

[Phil25]

I never talked about other Jews except the zionist invaders of Palestine. Why bring others into the issue when they are not the problem? As for those whose ancestors were from Palestine itself a century ago, nothing in wrong with them as long as they live peacefully just as they did a century ago.

Do the children and grandchildren and great grandchildren of "Zionist invaders" count as "invaders" or native. And tell me what should the descendents of mixed Polish and "Palestinian Jews do, go to Poland or stay in "Palestine". And what if Europeans dont want Jews coming back? What if they close the borders? Where in the world would Jews go then? Give me clear cut, definite answer, to each question.

 

[columbus]

Why should a thief return the things they stole if they don't want to?

Do you really think it is logical? That we should be doing anything we want even though we take the lives, lands and rights of the people away? And when faced with opposition, we do not acknowledge our mistakes? Instead we do nothing because we like the things as is?

Lots of Jewish people bought their land from the legal owners. Why an Ottoman turk felt entitled to give the land to a Syrian supporter who could then sell it to a Jew is another question. But it happened and the absentee landowners were happy to sell the worthless property to dumb Jews. The Palestinians were worthless to them. They didn't do anything profitable.

Once Jews started development of the land, more and more Muslims moved there. But a century ago even Muslims mostly didn't want it.

Tom

 

[Estro Felino]

Based on your answer, I hope that you simply misunderstood my question.
I'm asking that, since you think the Jews should be removed from Israel, do you also think that Jews should be removed from all countries?

I don't understand why you talk about the past. Antisemitism is over today. I think that Jews are great people and deserve to be in whatever state they like.
In so many countries Jews are socially respected and some of them are winners of Nobel Prize (Rita Levi Montalcini, for example)

The question of Israel is very simple. Jews created an artificial state in an Islamic geographical area seventy years ago. They shouldn't have. But now, that the damage has already been done, the solutions are not so many.

 

[Flankerl]

Oh great the posting of Propaganda Videos has begone.

I don't understand why you talk about the past. Antisemitism is over today. I think that Jews are great people and deserve to be in whatever state they like.

Do you have some kind of split personality going on?

They won't...because the pride of Jews is unlimited. And Judaism is all based upon the superiority of this nation over the others

Also you still didnt elaborate on that.

 

[Phil25]

The jews in other countries is no problem as long as they live peacefully. And the jews whose ancestors were in Palestine a century ago is not a problem either. It is the zionist occupiers that is a problem. They have invaded the land, massacred people, displaced an entire nation and etc. Other jews we have no problem.

Please see:

[youtube]Rn4ZX99Fbxs[/youtube]
Jews in Iran - YouTube

[youtube]vPEw4hsAn_M[/youtube]
Iran's Jewish Community - YouTube

ma salam

Humanitarian Tragedy: Iran’s Beleaguered Jewish Community | FrontPage Magazine
Jews are not considered equal in Iran. For example, Jews cannot hold a seat in Iranian Parliament while in Israel, Arab Muslims can, and many are.
And now I really doubt what you meant when saying Jews can live in Muslim countries, as long as they are peaceful, Does "Peaceful" mean beingbarred from participating in Politics?

 

[Flankerl]

And now I really doubt what you meant when saying Jews can live in Muslim countries, as long as they are peaceful, Does "Peaceful" mean beingbarred from participating in Politics?

Jews living peaceful in Muslim countries usually means that they may get a pogrom on their hands once a cow falls ill or a well dries up and may not have a mind on their own. They shouldnt even think about it.

 

[Tarheeler]

I don't understand why you talk about the past. Antisemitism is over today. I think that Jews are great people and deserve to be in whatever state they like.
In so many countries Jews are socially respected and some of them are winners of Nobel Prize (Rita Levi Montalcini, for example)

Hear that everyone? We can all relax, because Hay85 has declared antisemitism eradicated. It's all in the past.

Jews aren't attacked on their way to synagogue, rabbis don't get shot in front of kids, and synagogues don't get spray painted with antisemitic filth.

 

[xkatz]

The jews in other countries is no problem as long as they live peacefully. And the jews whose ancestors were in Palestine a century ago is not a problem either. It is the zionist occupiers that is a problem. They have invaded the land, massacred people, displaced an entire nation and etc. Other jews we have no problem.

Please see:

[youtube]Rn4ZX99Fbxs[/youtube]
Jews in Iran - YouTube

[youtube]vPEw4hsAn_M[/youtube]
Iran's Jewish Community - YouTube

ma salam

HOORAY DHIMMITUDE!!! :clap2::clap2::clap2:

 

[Estro Felino]

Also you still didnt elaborate on that.

Israel is not a secular state, given that in its flag there is a religious symbol.
And I repeat it: given that they don't want to give up, Israelis Jews are prideful.
If they weren't prideful, they would suppress the state of Israel, and they would accept to become citizens of a new Palestinian republic.

 

[xkatz]

Or at least, they can finally turn Israel into Palestine, and remain in that land as Palestinian citizens.

Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon are great examples of why this does not work in the Middle East.

 

[Estro Felino]

Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon are great examples of why this does not work in the Middle East.

They shouldn't have created an artificial state in an Islamic geographical area, then

 

[MD]

There is no option I think but to build a huge manned wall between Israel and the Palestinian areas and to not interfere in each others countries. There should be tight security and strict visas given to anyone from an Arab country. I'm not Jewish or Israeli but I think this is the best option. Also it would help if Israel was to build some sort of relationship with Iran, since they are the main funding of Hamas, Hezbollah and Assad. In the end money talks more than religion for all people in power and Iran/Assad/Hezbollah are feeling the heat from ISIS at the moment.

A lot of heat: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...alance-of-power-in-the-civil-war-9608335.html

A lot of people will be upset over this but I think it's the only viable solution and over time people will move on. I've met Palestinians who have told me that they will have many kids each generation until they overcome Israel by sheer numbers and that it's not about land only, it's about religion and their right. I've also met many Palestinians who are tired of it all and just want to move on.

It was unfortunate what happened to them, but this is what I see as the only solution. Either that or an all out war between the Arab countries and Israel and total decimation of Palestine. Obviously the latter option is not wanted by anyone as it would be disastrous.

 

[xkatz]

They shouldn't have created an artificial state in an Islamic geographical area, then

Then why did you purpose a one-state solution?

 

[Estro Felino]

Hear that everyone? We can all relax, because Hay85 has declared antisemitism eradicated. It's all in the past.

Jews aren't attacked on their way to synagogue, rabbis don't get shot in front of kids, and synagogues don't get spray painted with antisemitic filth.

I mean in the first world countries. By the way, Lots of Christians are persecuted and killed in some parts of Africa. But we Christians don't insist all the time on saying that there is anti-Christianity

 

[Estro Felino]

Then why did you purpose a one-state solution?

I mean, the Jews shouldn't have created the state of Israel back in the fourties. Yes, I purpose a one state solution: to suppress Israel, and to transfer all its territories into the new Palestinian republic.

 

[Tarheeler]

I mean in the first world countries.
...

France and the United States aren't considered "first world"?
News to me.


This just gets better and better.

 

[Matemkar]

Do the children and grandchildren and great grandchildren of "Zionist invaders" count as "invaders" or native.

Since you are Texan, I am sure you know more about the history of the US. Were not the Europeans invaders according to the Black natives in the NA? And how did the blacks feel about the white racists when they massacred, enslaved and oppressed the very black natives? What if the very occupiers had children and grandchildren? Do you think they were different for ages? No, they weren't. If you still live in a land your forefathers stole while massacring, oppressing and displacing the very natives, of course you are no different than your forefather. Don't you think? The things the zionists do today is no different than the very first occupiers of the land. Rather I find the current zionists more harmful, because they are hypocrites, they turn the things (truth) upside down. Destroying a nation is now portrayed as fighting terrorism. Invasion is portrayed as peaceful settlements. etc. So, yes, the fruits of the seed of a bad tree would be worse than the seed. And we witness it today. Unless jews in Palestine disassociate themselves from the zionist entity, it means they approve of zionist killers and occupiers. Thus, they are the same.

And tell me what should the descendents of mixed Polish and "Palestinian Jews do, go to Poland or stay in "Palestine". And what if Europeans dont want Jews coming back? What if they close the borders? Where in the world would Jews go then? Give me clear cut, definite answer, to each question.

To answer this questions is not my job. As I am no Palestinian and I am not to determine who is gonna stay and who is gonna leave. It should be decided by the Palestinian nation. That is the requirement of freedom of the nation. However, if you ask what I believe is to be justice:

1-) The zionist entity (occupier regime) should cease to exist.
2-) The criminal zionist leaders need to face justice.
3-) The natives of the land (progeny of the Palestinian Muslims, Christians, Jews who were there before the invasion, and those who were became acquianted with them through marriage and mixing etc.) can stay.
4-) The rest (i.e. invaders, settlers) should leave unless except the Palestinian nation forgives and shelters the ones who were forced to be that way.

This is the requirement of justice -a nation determening their own fate- which sadly the bullies of the world (namely US) and the folks they blind are unaware of.

 

[Flankerl]

Israel is not a secular state, given that in its flag there is a religious symbol.

So all the countries with crosses on their flags are like Israel?

And I repeat it: given that they don't want to give up, Israelis Jews are prideful.
If they weren't prideful, they would suppress the state of Israel, and they would accept to become citizens of a new Palestinian republic.

Ah now its only Israeli Jews. You really have to make up your mind.

Palestine Republic? Have you ever bothered to look into the plans of all the fun terrorist organisations or are you just believing in it out of naivety?
Also point out one Arab Republic thats not a complete failure.


So about Judaism. How is it based upon the believe that we are superior to everyone else. Or is it just Israeli Jews again?

 

[Flankerl]

Since you are Texan, I am sure you know more about the history of the US. Were not the Europeans invaders according to the Black natives in the NA? And how did the blacks feel about the white racists when they massacred, enslaved and oppressed the very black natives? What if the very occupiers had children and grandchildren? Do you think they were different for ages? No, they weren't. If you still live in a land your forefathers stole while massacring, oppressing and displacing the very natives, of course you are no different than your forefather. Don't you think? The things the zionists do today is no different than the very first occupiers of the land. Rather I find the current zionists more harmful, because they are hypocrites, they turn the things (truth) upside down. Destroying a nation is now portrayed as fighting terrorism. Invasion is portrayed as peaceful settlements. etc. So, yes, the fruits of the seed of a bad tree would be worse than the seed. And we witness it today. Unless jews in Palestine disassociate themselves from the zionist entity, it means they approve of zionist killers and occupiers. Thus, they are the same.

Says the turk on stolen Greek, Armenian and Kurdish land.

But hey its not theft after hundreds of years. So there wont be any bad feelings in a couple of hundred years. :yes:


In before obvious double standards.