Parents call police on teacher over LGBT book.

[We Never Know]

Anti-Intellectualism in American Life by Richard Hifstadter has that and lots more explaining why this country is so damn stupid. The author began collecting info, researching and taking notes for the book in the 50s, it was published in the 60s, amd if anything has changed it's just gotten worse. And it is very well cited and sourced.

I read the book many years ago. I don't remember it saying that in it.
But like I said... That was a long time ago

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

AS IF that even resembled reality
or your precious libs were not
as busy if not more so trying to
restrict and control what others do.

Your PM is appalling.
And on your fav., you want to outlaw
private ownership of firearms.

Now, i can see not liking govt intrusion.
I receive try emigrated for that reason.

But the way younand divers others
get hysterical demonizing " the other team"
while they point back doing the same is sick,
stupid crazy and dumb.

I resist attempts to control others unnecessarily no matter which side is doing it. I was appalled, for example, at the tearing down of the statue of Egerton Ryerson, and the renaming of Ryerson University to Toronto Metropolitan University. Ryerson was a person of his time, and understood his world as his contemporaries understood it (as we all do). That led to some things that today we think wrong, but it is always wrong to judge the past by the standards of today -- and he did an immense amount that was right and good, including not least in education in Canada. That action, by the way, was undertaken by liberal-minded people, and I fought against it. (I did mention it somewhere in RF at the time, but I'm not going to search for it now.)

And although he is indeed my PM, I don't claim ownership, and I don't intend to be voting Liberal in the next election (nor Conservative, by the way, since leader Pierre Poilevre is also appalling, in my view). In any case, I do not accept sole responsibility for how appalling you may find Justin Trudeau.

And I have never, ever spoken of outlawing private ownership of firearms. Still, I see no difficulty in registering them (we register our vehicles, after all), nor in licensing their use (we do the same for drivers), nor in restricting the private ownership of combat weapons. That latter is indeed he purview of the goverment, since war falls under the government's sway. Nor do I see any difficulty in not permitting some people, based on past behaviours or current mental status, from ownership. My lover had his Driver's Licence lifted because he suffered a debilitating illness (Guillaine-Barre Syndrome). Why should someone who has already committed or attempted murder be allowed to own such a weapon?

Now, if you think all of that is sick, stupid, crazy and dumb, well you are entitled to your opinion. But that is a true reflection of my feelings on these issues -- not the lopsided view of me you seem to be holding in mind.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I read the book many years ago. I don't remember it saying that in it.
But like I said... That was a long time ago

It's worth a reread. In my opinion every American should read it.
It's also interesting for me as the first part is a good chunk of what I was taught for church history, but from a very different perspective. But it was still weird reading all that again and being reminded of the zeal I once felt amd the inspirations that made me want to be a pastor.

 

[Audie]

I resist attempts to control others unnecessarily no matter which side is doing it. I was appalled, for example, at the tearing down of the statue of Egerton Ryerson, and the renaming of Ryerson University to Toronto Metropolitan University. Ryerson was a person of his time, and understood his world as his contemporaries understood it (as we all do). That led to some things that today we think wrong, but it is always wrong to judge the past by the standards of today -- and he did an immense amount that was right and good, including not least in education in Canada. That action, by the way, was undertaken by liberal-minded people, and I fought against it. (I did mention it somewhere in RF at the time, but I'm not going to search for it now.)

And although he is indeed my PM, I don't claim ownership, and I don't intend to be voting Liberal in the next election (nor Conservative, by the way, since leader Pierre Poilevre is also appalling, in my view. In any case, I do not accept sole responsibility for how appalling you may find Justin Trudeau.

And I have never, ever spoken of outlawing private ownership of firearms. Still, I see no difficulty in registering them (we register our vehicles, after all), nor in licensing their use (we do the same for drivers), nor in restricting the private ownership of combat weapons. That latter is indeed he purview of the goverment, since war falls under the government's sway. Nor do I see any difficulty in not permitting some people, based on past behaviours or current mental status, from ownership. My lover had his Driver's Licence lifted because he suffered a debilitating illness (Guillaine-Barre Syndrome). Why should someone who has already committed or attempted murder be allowed to own such a weapon?

Now, if you think all of that is sick, stupid, crazy and dumb, well you are entitled to your opinion. But that is a true reflection of my feelings on these issues -- not the lopsided view of me you seem to be holding in mind.

Virtually all weapons would readily fall under
"Combat" weapons.
So yeah outlaw citizen ownership.
That's definitely from the party of freedom, the
libs.

As for s- man re whats stuoid, review svp
what I actually said.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Virtually all weapons would readily fall under
"Combat" weapons.

That's just not true. Most weapons civilians can get access to would be rendered nearly useless and ineffective in combat.

 

[Audie]

That's just not true. Most weapons civilians can get access to would be rendered nearly useless and ineffective in combat.

Rong

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Virtually all weapons would readily fall under
"Combat" weapons.

I think most people, if they are trying to be fair, would recognize that I meant the different between AK-style rifles and the sort of rifle one might use hunting rabbits or deer, and few people would take a derringer or brass knuckles into the battlefield. It gets tiresome having to do extensive listings when the gist of the conversation really should let us all understand what is being said.

 

[Audie]

I think most people, if they are trying to be fair, would recognize that I meant the different between AK-style rifles and the sort of rifle one might use hunting rabbits or deer, and few people would take a derringer or brass knuckles into the battlefield. It gets tiresome having to do extensive listings when the gist of the conversation really should let us all understand what is being said.

I understand it just fine.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Rong

Ok. Lets see hiw long you last in war with a 22 rifle used for hunting small game.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Would the Anarchist Cookbook
and Turner Diaries be ok for public school
curriculum?

Not in my opinion -- and I'd be hard pressed to find any classroom teacher, department head, or principal who would disagree.

Do you need Big Government to tell you what the schools already have?

 

[TLK Valentine]

I am absolutely against banning or burning most books (two different scenarios, by the way.) More specifically,nowever, I am all for controlling anything read aloud to students or mandated to be read by students.

Controlling by whom? The classroom teacher, the principal, the school board, or the governor?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I understand it just fine.

O good. So you think that a AK-15, that can rip a hole a foot wide on exit and can fire at a rate of 700 RPM would be appropriate for a trip on the streetcar, if you're feeling a bit nervous. And if everybody has them, how long will your public transit system last?

 

[SomeRandom]

Not materials best suited for that eventual trip to the bar or nightclub that has nothing to do with learning the essentials, so a person can learn enough to get a job and know how to keep a job and survive with their fellow humans.

You know. Having a job and surviving alongside our fellow humans means interacting with and possibly even befriending gay people, right?
If you shelter a child from this, they will only be confused when they inevitably run into a random gay couple. Same way if they’re not introduced to interracial couples they will not know how to react when they run into an interracial couple.
Or mixed race person or even a working immigrant or whatever.
Hell even Sesame Street knows this!

If you truly want to prepare kids for the real world, why hide the real world from them?

 

[We Never Know]

I think most people, if they are trying to be fair, would recognize that I meant the different between AK-style rifles and the sort of rifle one might use hunting rabbits or deer, and few people would take a derringer or brass knuckles into the battlefield. It gets tiresome having to do extensive listings when the gist of the conversation really should let us all understand what is being said.

Brass knuckles were widely used in WWI and WW2.

 

[We Never Know]

O good. So you think that a AK-15, that can rip a hole a foot wide on exit and can fire at a rate of 700 RPM would be appropriate for a trip on the streetcar, if you're feeling a bit nervous. And if everybody has them, how long will your public transit system last?

"AK-15"

I believe that's primarily a Russian weapon.

 

[Audie]

Brass knuckles were widely used in WWI and WW2.

Far more widespread were
.38 calibre revolver weapons
of war.

 

[Audie]

"AK-15"

I believe that's primarily a Russian weapon.

Yup our hero of the left sure noes
his weapons. "Hole a foot wide"
Honestly, people in the Americas.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Another reason to put this nonsense aside and concentrate on just teaching the nessessary essentials so a student can be enabled to survive and navigate in the working world.

As long as parents are not teaching their kids to hate those who are different when they see them, they don't have to really be taught specifics about them. Unfortunately, some parents do teach hate. It would be nice if we could truly be colorblind and sexuality blind and just see people as people.

 

[Sand Dancer]

I agree that things like religion and sexuality should be left out of grade schools. The concentration should be solely with the learning essentials as its the reason the educational system was formed in the first place.

If someone wants more, that's what parochial and charters schools are for.

The far right wants to only teach their religion in schools. Since they do that, we need to have other religions taught as well. Religion is individual and personal, so should really only be taught at home and in houses of worship.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Psychologists say that children should learn love first.
And then, later on, they can be taught sex. There is no hurry for that.

I fail to understand why they are dying to teach them sex first.

Sources?