Drolefille
PolyPanGeekGirl
It is a mental disorder with some available treatments.
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Ped0philia
- Thread starter The Sum of Awe
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It is a mental disorder with some available treatments.
They are when they desire a lady who doesn't like them back.
The thing about pedophilia, is that while you can't help who you are attracted to, having an attraction to a child is dangerous because it is never legal to have sex with a child. A child can never consent to sex. While I wouldn't personally shun a pedophile who never had sex with a child, I still wouldn't want them around children.
I googled records for it being cured, found none. Unreliable treatments are unreliable.
Drolefille
PolyPanGeekGirl
No, they're not. You can continue to insist otherwise but I think you should focus on your main argument rather than exonerating pedophiles from rape orcondeming all people with fantasies as rapists.
Mathematician
Reason, and reason again
To avoid going in circles what do you define as a mental disorder?
riley2112
Active Member
A mental disorder or mental illness is a psychological or behavioral pattern that is generally associated with distress or disability, which is not considered part of normal development or the person's culture (
From Wikipedia
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Violet.
Prepubescent children don't have the hormones to even engage sexually.
They can only be used.
I can hardly see how ANY fantasy could get around this.
If you see it in any other way,
than it is not a child you are imagining.
No child is going to enjoy being sexually used by anyone.
Imagining such a thing is dangerously twisted.
The protection of children always comes first.
Period.
They can only be used.
I can hardly see how ANY fantasy could get around this.
If you see it in any other way,
than it is not a child you are imagining.
No child is going to enjoy being sexually used by anyone.
Imagining such a thing is dangerously twisted.
The protection of children always comes first.
Period.
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
I think he's referring to the collective judgment, or attitude towards pedophiles as if they're all already child molesters, or something like that
In which case, i would agree with him. But also would agree with what was said earlier, that the way society handles this issue, and looks at the people involved, is no different than other similar situations.
I understand being careful around them with your children, and think its wise to do so, but disagree with looking at them as disgusting people.
Ah. I don't see anyone being shunned - is it more hypothetical? Or is there a recent news story about a self-professed (non-practicing) pedophile? I don't see a widespread attitude of judgment. Then again, I don't know anyone who's confessed to wanting children but who has never acted on it. I've read of a few, but it seems quite hidden and perhaps rare.
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
That doesn't work. The definition of rape isn't non-reciprocal desire that's never acted upon. The key concept you're missing is "consensual". An offer of sex can (legally) be declined or accepted by a competent adult. A child can't make that decision with little sexual awareness or physiological ability. There's no consensuality when there's no critical thinking capability.
Drolefille
PolyPanGeekGirl
It does exist and is indeed rare, as far as we know.
But no, Sum appears to have just thrown up the idea from no where. I don't know what motivated his post. I don't know of any stories about it and I tend to follow that sort of thing.
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
I think that's part of why I misunderstood and glossed over the OP so quickly.
If a pedophile has been attracted to children but never acted on it, would he or she even admit that he or she was a pedophile? I mean, we wouldn't even know. I have never heard anyone ever say "I am attracted to children but never touched any"- even on TV.
Drolefille
PolyPanGeekGirl
They may seek therapy for it. But odds are no, they're not going to tell anyone. I don't know if SVU has done an episode on the topic, now I'm curious.
Really no we (from my personal point of view) can't just trust a stranger, you need to get to know someone first before trust can be given. IF I knew someone to be a known rapist then I would do my best to avoid that person. Same if a known paedophile was in the area then I would do my best to protect my child from that person whether they had actually raped a child or done everything in their power not to. The potential threat is there either way.
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
Exactly. I've only read of a few - one being a recent notably controversial author who self-published a book on Amazon, "The Pedophile's Guide to Love" (or something like that). Amazon pulled the book after backlash - I don't even think they were aware of the content with the myriad of self-published works there. The author gave instructions both on how to seduce children and how to not give into temptation when wanting to stay away from kids. He was arrested for that instruction book, I think.
Yes. "Confession" Season 10, Ep. 2...
Honestly i'm not sure, but i don't think he meant it as a hypothetical. My guess (and of course i could be wrong) would be that he meant had it not been for the shame attached to it, people wouldn't have to hide it.
That is, if someone is a pedophile and seeking supposed treatment (i'm saying supposed because i haven't looked into the matter deeper and am not sure whether or not it is actually a mental disorder) he wouldn't have to be secretive about it, say around people in his life. Their friends and family etc...
I wouldn't be surprised if someone gets quite the bad treatment and is regarded badly if they openly confess that they are pedophiles. Not saying thats actually the case, just that it certainly would be no surprise at all.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
On a radioshow called "Domian" here in germany there was one time a pedophile called to tell his story that he is on high meds who basically turn him a-sexual because he doesnt like his sexual orientation.
But of course he could've lied.
Thats the only time i ever heard about a pedophile stating something like that.