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People are being manipulated into hating Muslims

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
Who thinks that it's about time we unite and not be divided? I call for unity and want to work with Druids, Muslims, Christians, Zoroastrians ect. And I want all of us to not be divided by petty differences, exaggerations and sometimes flat out lies that's promoted by the powers that be. They have always been the enemy and have done worse than the worst of these radicals. I want people to see what's out there, to know the truth and to find out who the real enemy is.

Lot of groups that were divided back then were due to false flags, getting groups to fight each other, and pretending to be on both sides, so that no matter which side won, they would win. We can't afford to be divided anymore.
 

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_violence

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx)

109 verses of violence.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/ten_reasons.htm

10 top reasons Islam is not a religion of peace.

I could post lots more but you know who to google violence of Islam.

Maybe you skipped my post where I mentioned a whole bunch of verses than mention peace in the Quran.

And what does it matter? Like there's no verses that speak of violence in other scriptures like in the Bible? There's violence and peaceful verses in both books.

You're making up excuses as if you want reasons to hate Islam. The people who did horrible things in Islam have been dead for years. Don't punish the descendants for it. And keep it mind this book was written over a THOUSAND years ago and by multiple people. Of course the messages are going to contradict each other.

As if Islam is the worst. You haven't even begun to scratch the surface on who the actual enemy is, as there are religions and orders far worse and far more dangerous, more than you can imagine. You waste your energy on someone who is not the enemy here.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Who thinks that it's about time we unite and not be divided? I call for unity and want to work with Druids, Muslims, Christians, Zoroastrians ect. And I want all of us to not be divided by petty differences, exaggerations and sometimes flat out lies that's promoted by the powers that be. They have always been the enemy and have done worse than the worst of these radicals. I want people to see what's out there, to know the truth and to find out who the real enemy is.

Lot of groups that were divided back then were due to false flags, getting groups to fight each other, and pretending to be on both sides, so that no matter which side won, they would win. We can't afford to be divided anymore.

How can "we" unite with a religious philosophy that wants non muslims
DEAD.
Convert or die.
Period.
"WE" will never be united until islam is wiped from the face of the earth.
ALL religions gone.
At least most all other religions don't preach death to non believers.
Google up some information on the religion of peace for cryin' out loud.
What part of we are at WAR with radical islam don't you understand?
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Maybe you skipped my post where I mentioned a whole bunch of verses than mention peace in the Quran.

And what does it matter? Like there's no verses that speak of violence in other scriptures like in the Bible? There's violence and peaceful verses in both books.

You're making up excuses as if you want reasons to hate Islam. The people who did horrible things in Islam have been dead for years. Don't punish the descendants for it. And keep it mind this book was written over a THOUSAND years ago and by multiple people. Of course the messages are going to contradict each other.

As if Islam is the worst. You haven't even begun to scratch the surface on who the actual enemy is, as there are religions and orders far worse and far more dangerous, more than you can imagine. You waste your energy on someone who is not the enemy here.

Modern history, as in days ago.

Jihad Report
Jun 04, 2016 -
Jun 10, 2016

Attacks 54
Killed 420
Injured 412
Suicide Blasts 7
Countries 15

And just who are you to suggest what I research and post?

"You haven't even begun to scratch the surface on who the actual enemy is, as there are religions and orders far worse and far more dangerous, more than you can imagine. "

Well back up that opinion of yours with some facts from a reliable source please.
The K.K.K. goes without saying. Most people that haven't their head where the
sun don't shine know of those criminals.
 

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
Modern history, as in days ago.

Jihad Report
Jun 04, 2016 -
Jun 10, 2016

Attacks 54
Killed 420
Injured 412
Suicide Blasts 7
Countries 15

And just who are you to suggest what I research and post?

"You haven't even begun to scratch the surface on who the actual enemy is, as there are religions and orders far worse and far more dangerous, more than you can imagine. "

Well back up that opinion of yours with some facts from a reliable source please.
The K.K.K. goes without saying. Most people that haven't their head where the
sun don't shine know of those criminals.

One, who made up those statistics, and let's see, there's over a billion. That's a lot of people. Nevermind what The Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda, did, killing and selling others into slavery, but that doesn't count, because they are Christian.

Do you seriously think hundreds of millions of Muslims go around force converting everyone. Have you even met a Muslim in your life? KKK are just puppets, they are others way worse than them. The ones that are way worse are not as numerous but are way more dangerous when it comes to influence. Most of them are small cults that actually are evil or at least unethical though.

What if a Muslim does something bad. Why do you assume their religion has something to do with it. It never occurred to you that maybe they were lunatics and fanatics. No one else asked any of the other terrorists religions or serial killers or criminals to see what their religion matters. And it really shouldn't. A lunatic is still a lunatic no matter what label you give it. I know good Muslims. That IS proof that there are good Muslims as well as bad. I can see it. Why can't you? You're just being manipulated like the others. Rather going out and getting experience, you're reveling in ignorance and choose to go against the Muslims because that's what the media wants you to do. And it's easier to do as your told instead of thinking for yourself.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Your post content is real and factual and irrelevant.
See the topic for this discussion.
I know of the other atrocities in this messed up world.
We aren't discussing those things on this subject of the Orlando murders.
Perhaps it would be good to start a threat on these horrors.
 

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
Your post content is real and factual and irrelevant.
See the topic for this discussion.
I know of the other atrocities in this messed up world.
We aren't discussing those things on this subject of the Orlando murders.
Perhaps it would be good to start a threat on these horrors.

I never even brought up the Orlando murders, which itself smells to me.

This world is not messed up as you put it. The only thing messed up about it is people that are messed up. I already know what's going on and I see the same patterns over and over. Muslims aren't and never were the main enemy. They have been used as a scapegoat. You don't believe me now, but there will be a time where you will realize I was right.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
I never even brought up the Orlando murders, which itself smells to me.

This world is not messed up as you put it. The only thing messed up about it is people that are messed up. I already know what's going on and I see the same patterns over and over. Muslims aren't and never were the main enemy. They have been used as a scapegoat. You don't believe me now, but there will be a time where you will realize I was right.

'splain pls "which itself smells to me".
Are we presenting some kind of conspiracy?

Who or what organization is scapegoating muslims?
Enlighten me pls as I don't get it.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
It would entail the worldwide destruction of the Jews, for one thing. In Islamic eschatology the end times will not arrive until the last Jews are killed. The Koran says that the very rocks will call out to kill a Jew if one attempts to hide behind them.
To be fair, that seems to be said by a Hadith, not by the Qur'an. Which means that Muslims are basically free to believe it or not as they see fit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_antisemitism#Hadith

Still, it certainly worries me that there is even a question to be made... and that it qualified as a Hadith in the first place.
 
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YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Really? You must have avoided the news quite fiercely then. Are you even aware of what the father of the perpetrator said about the deserved fate of gays?
What has the Orlando gunman's father said? -- CBS News

Sounds like a charming family. Considering the odd views of the father, would he even have thought any comments made by the son would be strange or suspicious? What I mean here is if a father was a member of the KKK, had been for years, would the father think a racist remark denigrating blacks made by his son was out of place? Dad would likely just smile with pride.

It is reminiscent of the wacko mom of the Boston bombers. Yep, pretty hard to see where the radicalization came from... It's gotta be a conspiracy to make Muslims look bad. :rolleyes:
 
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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Do you even know the message of Islam? Please tell us. Even Muslims will give you conflicting answers.

Peace and love.

You will not enter Paradise until you believe and you will not believe until you love each other. Shall I show you something that, if you did, you would love each other? Spread peace between yourselves.

Source: Sahih Muslim 54, Grade: Sahih

Abdullah ibn Amr reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:
Worship the Most Merciful and spread peace.

Source: Sunan Ibn Majah 3694, Grade: Sahih

Abu Umamah reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:

Verily, the best of the people to Allah are those who begin the greeting of peace.

Source: Sunan Abu Dawud 5197, Grade: Sahih


 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
Islamic banking is growing up in the west because the number of people who adheres to Islamic laws in the west is growing up. In Islam riba(lending or boring money for interest) is prohibited. How can a banking industry be profitable without riba (interest)???????
I am asking this out if curiosity. I don't understand how Islamic banking is profitable for the capitalists.
Tell me then: how do they make a profit?

There is nothing such as a Muslim world or non Muslim world. Muslims are spread throughout the world. When I said 'Muslim' , I didn't mean someone with an Arabic name or someone who has a an ID/passport with the religion column filled as Islam. A Muslim is someone who submits himself/herself to the almighty God. True Muslims obeys the law of God. There are lots of Muslims who prays five times a day, who do not lend or borrow money for interest , who do not drink alcohol, who do not indulge in any extramarital/premarital relationship. And there are lots of Muslim ladies who covers up their body, who do not allow themselves to be commoditized or exploited. And their numbers are increasing day by day.

Just like there are plenty of muslims who do engage in such behaviour. Muslims are human just like the rest of us Kaffir: they are not some saintly race of enlightened beings.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
When Sunnis set off bombs in markets they choose predominantly Shia markets in which to do the damage. It would be pointless to deliberately kill your own. I don't know how many times I've heard it -- 'The bomb went off in a Shia neighbourhood.'

There's no specific markets, Sunna and Shia are living together, working together, eating together in
the one same land.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
There is an episode of original Star Trek in which a Klingon leader said "I need no urging to hate humans!" That is the same with people. If someone hates, he or she needs no urging to do so, no matter what the media might tell him.
I stated on my Facebook yesterday that I believe that the media shows a postage stamp size view of a 16' by 16' painting and behaves as if it is the full picture: which means it's totally distorted. They show us what they want us to know. I think the majority of us are bright enough to understand that the media is trying to sell a product. I stopped paying attention to the media a long time ago.
I work with a diverse bunch of people: Various religions, various ethnic groups, people born and raised in other countries, etc. I don't see any kind of arguing or fighting on my job. Most of us speak to one another, we get along pretty well (usually). We get customers of all walks of life, as well. Instead of paying attention to the media, I've decided to just observe the world around me instead.
 

blue taylor

Active Member
Peace and love.

You will not enter Paradise until you believe and you will not believe until you love each other. Shall I show you something that, if you did, you would love each other? Spread peace between yourselves.

Source: Sahih Muslim 54, Grade: Sahih

Abdullah ibn Amr reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:
Worship the Most Merciful and spread peace.

Source: Sunan Ibn Majah 3694, Grade: Sahih

Abu Umamah reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:

Verily, the best of the people to Allah are those who begin the greeting of peace.

Source: Sunan Abu Dawud 5197, Grade: Sahih

Sahih Muslim 54-18
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

It all depends on who you ask and which books of fiction that you want to quote.
 

Theweirdtophat

Well-Known Member
Really? You must have avoided the news quite fiercely then. Are you even aware of what the father of the perpetrator said about the deserved fate of gays?

Yeah right. You never heard of false flags? You seriously think all of that was real. You're media has been lying to you for your years, what makes you think this will be different? Have you seen the victims families in videos and see how fake their acting is? Go ahead and listen and see if anyone you know acts like that when they'v lost a family member. No one acts like that.

They also forgot to tell you the father worked with people in congress who also was in turn involved in CIA stuff, which is already shady enough, but they didn't tell you that part, did they?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Yeah right. You never heard of false flags? You seriously think all of that was real. You're media has been lying to you for your years, what makes you think this will be different? Have you seen the victims families in videos and see how fake their acting is? Go ahead and listen and see if anyone you know acts like that when they'v lost a family member. No one acts like that.

They also forgot to tell you the father worked with people in congress who also was in turn involved in CIA stuff, which is already shady enough, but they didn't tell you that part, did they?
You are really into conspiracy theories, I see.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Yeah right. You never heard of false flags? You seriously think all of that was real. You're media has been lying to you for your years, what makes you think this will be different? Have you seen the victims families in videos and see how fake their acting is? Go ahead and listen and see if anyone you know acts like that when they'v lost a family member. No one acts like that.

They also forgot to tell you the father worked with people in congress who also was in turn involved in CIA stuff, which is already shady enough, but they didn't tell you that part, did they?
You know, @Theweirdtophat sometimes a pencil really is a pencil.
 
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