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Persecution and killings of peaceful Ahmadi Muslims

Ryujin

Ryujin

Dragon Worshipper
It's too bad they are so unaccepted.(except maybe in Punjab?) I've always identified with what they believe and feel. It's too bad that they are not in the majority anywhere. That probably contributes to the level of persecution they face.
 
MD

MD

qualiaphile
outhouse said:
Maybe they asked for it, by being severe fundamentalist. :facepalm:


If your typical, I'm not seeing a problem here.
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Ahmadis are generally not fundamentalists, they're pretty peaceful and open minded.

Pakistanis are generally fundamentalist. In general Sunni Islam is becoming more fundamentalist.

As a consequence of that, we are seeing the slaughter of Shias, Christians and Yezidis in Iraq and Syria.
 
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outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
shahz said:
Ahmadis are generally not fundamentalists, they're pretty peaceful and open minded.

Pakistanis are generally fundamentalist. In general Sunni Islam is becoming more fundamentalist.

As a consequence of that, we are seeing the slaughter of Shias, Christians and Yezidis in Iraq and Syria.
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Thank you.

I was just reading up on it.


Op is not a very good ambassador for his religion.



It seems they have some fundamentalist ideas, but very few religions do not. Probably no worse then 7th day or mormans. Just another group claiming a modern day prophet.
 
gnostic

gnostic

The Lost One
Columbus said:
So Ahmadis are being persecuted by Muslims. Who isn't?
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They are Muslims. They are just another sect, and was found in the late 19th century, so they are the youngest sect.

They are far more peaceful, and less likely to compel non-Muslims to convert.
 
MD

MD

qualiaphile
gnostic said:
They are Muslims. They are just another sect, and was found in the late 19th century, so they are the youngest sect.

They are far more peaceful, and less likely to compel non-Muslims to convert.
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They're also rejected by more fundamentalist sects of Islam and every year many are killed by extremists.
 
C

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
gnostic said:
They are Muslims. They are just another sect, and was found in the late 19th century, so they are the youngest sect.

They are far more peaceful, and less likely to compel non-Muslims to convert.
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That was my point.
More Muslims died violent deaths this past month at the hands of other Muslims than the IDF and all other non Muslim sources put together.

Tom
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
gnostic said:
They are Muslims. They are just another sect, and was found in the late 19th century, so they are the youngest sect.

They are far more peaceful, and less likely to compel non-Muslims to convert.
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Thanks for your comments.

We are peaceful people and we believe in peaceful dialogue. Within a period of near 106 years we have spread to most of the countries of the world:

"As of 2013 the community has been established in 204 countries and territories of the world with concentrations in South Asia, West Africa, East Africa and Indonesia. The community is a minority Muslim sect in almost every country of the world."

Ahmadiyya by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regards
 
Sunstone

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
paarsurrey said:
The Persecution of Ahmadis is the religious persecution of Ahmadi Muslims as a consequence of professing their faith. They have been subject to various forms of persecution and discrimination since the movement's inception in 1889.

Persecution of Ahmadis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regards
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This is tragic. But I wonder why so many of us continue to see religion as a solution to violence when this kind of persecution and violence seems so often associated with religious differences?
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
paarsurrey said:
We are peaceful people and we believe in peaceful dialogue.
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What you call peaceful is an attack on others beliefs, and brings out hatred and anger from others.


They way you try and trash history does not bring peace, it is an attack on modern education and knowledge
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Woman and two children killed by mob in riots over 'blasphemous' Facebook post in Pakistan

LIZZIE DEARDEN MONDAY 28 JULY 2014

The victims were members of the persecuted Ahmadi sect

A woman, a child and a baby have died in Pakistan during riots over an allegedly blasphemous Facebook post.
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Their home was one of several set on fire in the city of Gujranwala on Sunday and another woman miscarried during the violence.

The woman, her seven-year-old granddaughter and her baby sister died of suffocation, according to police officials.

The victims were members of the Ahmadi religious sect, who identify with Islam but are widely regarded as heretics in Pakistan and face persecution.

Pakistani television channels aired footage showing a mob armed with sticks, cheering outside the burning homes.

Differing sources claimed the woman was in her 30s and the girls were aged eight months and five years.

Ahmadis consider themselves Muslim but believe in a prophet after Mohammed, the self-proclaimed Ghulam Ahmad, who was born in 1835.
He is not defined as a “law-giving” prophet but claimed to propagate the laws enunciated by Mohammed.

Woman and two children killed by mob in riots over &#039;blasphemous&#039; Facebook post in Pakistan - Asia - World - The Independent

Regards
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
paarsurrey said:
Only truth brings peace; I am just doing that.

Regards
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I think this is a lie.


You factually avoid the truth. You attack others beliefs promoting hatred.

You certainly mean only what you consider the truth brings peace to you, and no one else.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Originally Posted by paarsurrey
self-proclaimed Ghulam Ahmad
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outhouse said:
:facepalm:

Figures.
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That was a quotation from the source I quoted.

Just to elaborate your point:

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was the Promised Messiah/Mahdi a prophet of G-d; duly appointed by G-d. There is no doubt about it.

He was a Successor/Prophet of G-d like David or Cyrus.

Like David followed the Law of Moses and was a prophet of G-d; or like Cyrus was a follower of Zoroaster and a prophet of G-d.

You mention of figures. What figures you mean? Please

Regards
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
paarsurrey said:
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was the Promised Messiah/Mahdi a prophet of G-d; duly appointed by G-d. There is no doubt about it.
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There is no doubt in your mind. But you dont follow any rational method for making any determination.

You believe that, and you have faith. But you have no evidence at all and the rest of the world does not believe you.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Persecution and killings of peaceful Ahmadi Muslims


May 2010 attacks on Ahmadi mosques in Lahore, Pakistian


The May 2010 Lahore attacks also referred as Lahore Massacre occurred on May 28, 2010, in Lahore, Punjab,Pakistan, during Friday prayers. 94 people were killed and more than 120 were injured in nearly simultaneous attacks against two mosques of the minority Ahmadiyya Community. After the initial attack, a hostage situation lasted for hours.[1] Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan, as well as their Punjab wing, claimed responsibility for the attacks and were also blamed by the Pakistani Police.

May 2010 attacks on Ahmadi mosques in Lahore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkSP2FBrRaU

Regards
 
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