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Persecution and killings of peaceful Ahmadi Muslims

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Could you learn what your talking about before you post :facepalm:

There was no law of moses when david existed.


If your people are all like you, they are bring hatred on themselves.

I think I mentioned what the Jews, Christians and Muslims believe.
How does it create hatred?

Regard
 

outhouse

Atheistically
I think I mentioned what the Jews, Christians and Muslims believe.
How does it create hatred?

Regard

You try and attack others religions when you are blind to your own faults, and fundamentalism.

Moses never existed as written.

There was no mass exodus from Egypt

Israelites formed and evolved slowly from displaced Canaanites and other Semitic people.


And you have no credible view of history, and willfully choose to remain ignorant and biased in history.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Woman and two children killed by mob in riots over 'blasphemous' Facebook post in Pakistan

LIZZIE DEARDEN MONDAY 28 JULY 2014

The victims were members of the persecuted Ahmadi sect

Woman and two children killed by mob in riots over 'blasphemous' Facebook post in Pakistan - Asia - World - The Independent

Despite persecution of Ahmadis in many countries; Ahmadi have never resorted to take revenge in the same manner.

Mirza Masroor Ahmad- the current Head of Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat outlined his positive reaction to the above incident in his following Friday Addresses:

Friday Sermon: The Contemptible Gujranwala Attacks
Friday Sermon: Power of Prayers for Special Help

One may like to access the same for Ahmadiyya peaceful approach on such events based on the true teachings of Islam/Quran/Muhammad due to which Ahmadiyya have always progressed.

Regards
 

outhouse

Atheistically
quit ignoring out of desperation.

You try and attack others religions when you are blind to your own faults, and fundamentalism.

Moses never existed as written.

There was no mass exodus from Egypt

Israelites formed and evolved slowly from displaced Canaanites and other Semitic people.


And you have no credible view of history, and willfully choose to remain ignorant and biased in history.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Despite persecution of Ahmadis in many countries; Ahmadi have never resorted to take revenge in the same manner.

Mirza Masroor Ahmad-The Fifth Caliph & the current Head of Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat outlined his positive reaction to the above incident in his following Friday Addresses:

Friday Sermon: The Contemptible Gujranwala Attacks

A synopsis of the same is given below for convenience of he viewers:


The Contemptible Gujranwala Attacks

• Hazrat Khalifatul Masih said that these verses illustrate exactly the incident perpetrated against Ahmadis in Gujaranwala. It is such a testimony of the truthfulness of Ahmadiyyat and the Promised Messiah(as) that if fair-minded Muslims reflect over Surah Al Buruj the reality of the persecution of Ahmadi would open up to them. They would realise the extent of the actions of their leaders, politicians and the government in this regard and they would believe in the truthfulness of the Promised Messiah(as) and not be part of this persecution.

• With the grace of God, the tree of the Jama’at will grow and flourish and for this the members of the Jama’at will have to give sacrifices. As for those who kindle fire, they will themselves burn in the same fire or God will destroy them by other means. ‘Cursed be the people of the trenches – ‘ is a prophecy which has been fulfilled in favour of the Jama’at and will continue to do so. But the opponents will not desist, they will continue with their oppression and persecution but the tree of Ahmadiyyat will also continue to grow.

• Ahmadis of Gujaranwala were exemplary during the riots of 1974 and today, yet again they have established a new example of sacrifice. A seven month old girl, an eight year old girl and a woman gave the sacrifice of life and established a new example of sacrifice. In fact a life that had not yet come into this world and was to see this world after two months or so was deprived of coming into the world and gave its sacrifice as well. God has informed us about the oppressors and kindlers of fire as to what their ending will be and He has also assured those who believe.

• It is perhaps the first time in the history of Ahmadiyyat that the sacrifice has been all-female. The sacrifice of these innocents will InshaAllah never be fruitless. Huzoor also made it clear that they lost their lives due to smoke inhalation and no one was injured by the fire although the perpetrators continually burnt what they did not wish to loot, including household furniture and other means of fuel! Those who were martyred included Bushra Begum Sahib wife of late Munir Ahmad Sahib and Hira Tabassum and Kainat Tabassum, daughters of Muhammad Buta Sahib.

• On 27 July 2014 extremist opponents of Ahmadiyyat attacked and set fire to Ahmadi homes in Kachi-Pump, Arafat Colony, Gujaranwala which resulted in the martyrdoms of 55 year old Bushra Begum Sahiba, 6 year old Hira Tabassum and 8 month old Kainat Tabassum. Inni lilla he wa inna illaihi raji’oon. On the day of the attack one of the sons of the deceased lady Muhammad Ahmad Sahib went to a nearby clinic to get medicine after Iftari. He saw his cousin Waqas Ahmad being held by some people.

• Amir Sahib Gujaranwala further writes that on the evening of 27 July 2014 a 400 to 500 strong crowd attacked Ahmadi homes. The extremists associated some offensive photograph on Facebook to an Ahmadi youth Aqib Saleem Sahib, which is completely groundless. They started the attack on this basis and apart from the home of the martyrs set fire to six other homes and looted them. They also looted the shop of the victims and took away goods."

Regards
 

outhouse

Atheistically
8. Preaching/Proselytizing
The forums are not to be used for converting others to your own faith, against any faith, or recruiting people to join one's party, institution, or cause. This includes placing links or copied material from elsewhere intended for this purpose. Posts of this nature will be edited or removed and are subject to moderation.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Your so desperate.

You have to reply to yourself.

Your proselytizing is obvious
He cannot hide from the fact that the vast majority of the Muslim world looks at his brand of Islam with utter disdain - hence the persecution.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
He cannot hide from the fact that the vast majority of the Muslim world looks at his brand of Islam with utter disdain - hence the persecution.

No; they cannot face the facts and arguments; so they persecute.
But this has not hindered progress of Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat from spreading in the world, peacefully.

Regards
 

outhouse

Atheistically
He cannot hide from the fact that the vast majority of the Muslim world looks at his brand of Islam with utter disdain - hence the persecution.

It just shows how easy muslim can pervert the books to mean what they want, and create prophets at will when ever they feel like it.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Despite persecution of Ahmadis in many countries; Ahmadi have never resorted to take revenge in the same manner.

Mirza Masroor Ahmad-The Fifth Caliph of the Promised Messiah and the current Head of Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat outlined his positive reaction to the above incident in his following Friday Sermon:


Friday Sermon: Power of Prayers for Special Help

I give below the synopsis of the above Sermon:

Power of Prayers for Special Help​

Synopsis:

• he Promised Messiah(as) repeatedly advised his Jama’at to greatly focus on prayer because the progress of the Jama’at and release from the evil of the enemy is through prayer! He clearly explained that our only weapon to triumph over the enemy is prayer. How much significance should we then pay to prayer and how much should we focus on it; indeed, how much significance and focus do we lay on it. This can be gauged by everyone by reflecting over their own condition.

• This persecution and cruelty does not cease after any particular incident, rather, it continues. When the neighbours of Ahmadis in Gujaranwala who used to socialise with them saw their homes vacated, they joined the mob. When morals plunge so low nothing except ‘Inna Lillah’ can be said! In light of these circumstances, we need to turn to God much more than before. We should not let our prayers lessen. While other Muslims respond to persecution aggressively to get even, our way is to turn to God in our grief and thus settle it.

• Who is more persecuted than Ahmadis in a few Muslim countries? The decency of the large majority of the people of this country (Pakistan) has, as Hazrat Khalifatul Masih III(rh) used to say, become mute decency. The Quranic verse (as cited above) states who else but God listens to the prayer of those in trouble, when they are مضطر muztir! Muztir (the distressed) signifies that person who sees himself engulfed in trials from all directions and does not see any physical or worldly way out for himself and only sees the way of God as his solution.

• The Promised Messiah(as) said that for acceptance of prayers it is conditional that they are made in abundance and repeatedly. It should be clear that it is wrong to assume the prayers of Ramadan were sufficient. We need to pray continuously. Even when we will be granted clear triumph, in order to garner God’s blessings, we will still be in need of prayers. In short, a true believer’s connection with God is never lessened. Pathos needs to be generated during troubles and remembrance of God is needed during good times.
• May God make it so that that we try and bring about pure changes in ourselves as the Promised Messiah(as) wished and do everything for the sake of God and pray like a muztir to Him! May we make prayers for progress of Jama’at and for removal of trials of the Jama’at with the same intensity as we make personal prayers! May we pray as one to be protected from the evil of the opponents! As mentioned earlier, unless we turn to God with sincerity for the removal of these communal trials we will not attain our objective quickly.

Friday Sermon: Power of Prayers for Special Help

Regards
 

outhouse

Atheistically
8. Preaching/Proselytizing
The forums are not to be used for converting others to your own faith, against any faith, or recruiting people to join one's party, institution, or cause. This includes placing links or copied material from elsewhere intended for this purpose. Posts of this nature will be edited or removed and are subject to moderation.
 

Sees

Dragonslayer
Is it a coincidence who is killing and persecuting Ahmadis?

Ummm, of course...and it is truly only about politics, ethnicity, resources....you know. :sarcastic
 

Poeticus

| abhyAvartin |
Is it a coincidence who is killing and persecuting Ahmadis?

Ummm, of course...and it is truly only about politics, ethnicity, resources....you know. :sarcastic

... and aliens. Those freaking Reppies. :sad:
 

Sees

Dragonslayer
I don't get you exactly; please elaborate.

Regards

Who has been persecuting and killing Ahmadis since they started? Do you believe it is a coincidence that it is _______ who is doing the persecuting and killing?

In other words, is it even possible to be a coincidence if that same religious ideology is also involved in the vast majority of religious persecution/murder occuring in modern times?

At what point does it transcend coincidence and suggest an issue is present?

I bring this up because big fans/proponents of apologetics and political correctness like to suggest or flat out proclaim that only resources, politics, ethnicity, etc. causes such horrible acts to manifest. Usually none of which applies to Ahmadis...it is simply having a different flavor of Islam.

Is that right in your opinion?

If it's not right, who do you think is just as likely to persecute/murder Ahmadis over their religion and better yet...why does it never happen?

Thanks
 
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Who has been persecuting and killing Ahmadis since they started? Do you believe it is a coincidence that it is _______ who is doing the persecuting and killing?

In other words, is it even possible to be a coincidence if that same religious ideology is also involved in the vast majority of religious persecution/murder occuring in modern times?

At what point does it transcend coincidence and suggest an issue is present?

I bring this up because big fans/proponents of apologetics and political correctness like to suggest or flat out proclaim that only resources, politics, ethnicity, etc. causes such horrible acts to manifest. Usually none of which applies to Ahmadis...it is simply having a different flavor of Islam.

Is that right in your opinion?

If it's not right, who do you think is just as likely to persecute/murder Ahmadis over their religion and better yet...why does it never happen?

Thanks

only resources, politics, ethnicity, etc. causes such horrible acts to manifest. Usually none of which applies to Ahmadis...it is simply having a different flavor of Islam. [/COLOR]

They persecute us just because we are different in faith and they cannot withstand Ahmadiyya reasonable , meaningful and rational arguments based on Quran and Sunnah of Muhammad.

Regards
 
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