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Persecution and killings of peaceful Ahmadi Muslims

paarsurrey

paarsurrey

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Persecution of Ahmadiyya in Bangladesh

Since its establishment in Bangladesh, members of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community have faced persecution from other Muslim groups. In 1963 two Ahmadis were killed inBrahmanbaria. In 1992, the Ahmadiyya headquarters in Dhaka were attacked by a mob and a number of Qurans & other books were burnt. In 1999, a bomb blast at an Ahmadiyya mosque killed seven people.

On 29 October 2003, an Ahmadi Imam named Shah Alam in Roghunathpurbak village in Jhikargachha upazila of Jessore was killed.[4] In 2004, the International Khatme Nabuyat Movement (IKNM) besieged several Ahmadiyya mosques countrywide.[5]

In 17 June 2010 an angry mob vandalised an Ahmadiyya mosque and the house of an Ahmadiyya believer at Ghatail upazila in Tangail Thursday.[6] In February 2013, a mob set fire to Ahmadiyya property at a site which had been prepared to hold the community's centenary celebrations, causing tens of millions worth of damage in local currency.

Ahmadiyya in Bangladesh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Sees

Sees

Dragonslayer
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Sees said:
Sadly, another example with ideological correlation. I would wager we could count on one hand how many orchestrated attacks from non-Muslims have victimized/murdered Ahmadis. Would like to see a reference or two if you find any.
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I don't remember of any killing done by non-Muslims to Ahmadis.

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paarsurrey

paarsurrey

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Chronology for Ahmadis in Pakistan

Feb 1990 Pakistan has rejected US charges of human rights abuses and restrictions on press freedoms. The Pakistani government contends that the media are completely free and that American claims of religious and job discrimination against Pakistan's small Ahmadi, Hindu and Christian communities are totally wrong (Reuters, 02/25/90).

Refworld | Chronology for Ahmadis in Pakistan
 
YmirGF

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
paarsurrey said:
Did I ever say such words?

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No, and I never said you did. I was specifically thinking of those brilliant Mullahs heading up Iran. :)

As you know though, Muslims have a distinct tendency to take their religion VERY seriously. To the vast majority of the Muslim world, the Ahmadi's are a heretical sect and they take your doctrine as a serious threat to their own. Unfortunately for the Ahmadi's, there are far, far more Sunni's and Shia Muslims and that is why so many make their home in Canada, for example, because they are protected by non-Muslim law. :)

(Last estimates I could find is that Canada is home to some 35,000 Ahmadi Muslims.) Frankly, they are really nice people, for the most part...
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
YmirGF said:
No, and I never said you did. I was specifically thinking of those brilliant Mullahs heading up Iran. :)

As you know though, Muslims have a distinct tendency to take their religion VERY seriously. To the vast majority of the Muslim world, the Ahmadi's are a heretical sect and they take your doctrine as a serious threat to their own. Unfortunately for the Ahmadi's, there are far, far more Sunni's and Shia Muslims and that is why so many make their home in Canada, for example, because they are protected by non-Muslim law. :)

(Last estimates I could find is that Canada is home to some 35,000 Ahmadi Muslims.) Frankly, they are really nice people, for the most part...
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Just to correct you; protected by the Secular Law having features and essence of Law of Quran/Islam/Muhammad.

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Shad

Shad

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paarsurrey said:
Just to correct you; protected by the Secular Law having features and essence of Law of Quran/Islam/Muhammad.

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Secular laws do not tax people based on religion. Canadian laws are based on English law which is based on Saxon law. Nothing Islam about it.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

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Shad said:
Secular laws do not tax people based on religion. Canadian laws are based on English law which is based on Saxon law. Nothing Islam about it.
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Ahmadis have no grievance against Canadian Laws/Constitution; Ahmadis never hanker after power and Ahmadis are not interfered with by the Canadian Laws.

I get following points:


1. The preamble to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is the introductory sentence to the Constitution of Canada's Charter of Rights and Constitution Act, 1982.
2. the preamble indicates that "Canada cannot be regarded as a strictly secular country, in the popular sense of the term"

Preamble to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Does Canadian Constitution mention in clear terms that it is secular? Please
Kindly name any other country that mention that it is secular? Please

Anybody please

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Shad

Shad

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Secular is without religion in government. We do not create laws based on religion, do not have religion dictating government polices, no religious figures hold seats in parliament. The preamble holds no power what so ever. Secular does not mean atheistic.

Canada was once a religious nation based on our connection with the UK but this is no longer the case. Religious schools are required by law to admit non-religious students. These students are free to opt out of all religious courses if they want. Religious schools are forced by law to teach subject such as LGBT and evolution.

There was once religious court(arbitration) systems which would run counter to the idea of a Christian nation since others were includes such a Judaism. If a religious law violated Canada Law the ruling was rendered void. These court(arbitration) systems, including Christian, have been removed. The cause of the removal is in fact that Sharia law was being advocated. However since Sharia law violated Canadian law it was rejected. This caused reevaluation of the other religious courts which were removed as well. These system hold no power nor are considered binding in Canada.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Shad said:
Secular is without religion in government. We do not create laws based on religion, do not have religion dictating government polices, no religious figures hold seats in parliament. The preamble holds no power what so ever. Secular does not mean atheistic.

Canada was once a religious nation based on our connection with the UK but this is no longer the case. Religious schools are required by law to admit non-religious students. These students are free to opt out of all religious courses if they want. Religious schools are forced by law to teach subject such as LGBT and evolution.

There was once religious court(arbitration) systems which would run counter to the idea of a Christian nation since others were includes such a Judaism. If a religious law violated Canada Law the ruling was rendered void. These court(arbitration) systems, including Christian, have been removed. The cause of the removal is in fact that Sharia law was being advocated. However since Sharia law violated Canadian law it was rejected. This caused reevaluation of the other religious courts which were removed as well. These system hold no power nor are considered binding in Canada.
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If a Constitution does not mention in a straightforward manner that it is secular; why name it as such.

Any compulsion please.

Secular is worldly or dealing with the day to day things.

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paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Chronology for Ahmadis in Pakistan

Nov 1990 Authorities have barred Ahmadis from holding meetings in Rabwah, a town in Punjab that is the headquarters of the Ahmadi sect. Mirza K. Ahmad of the Ahmadiyya Jamaat said the banning order was received shortly before scheduled 3-day meetings. Ahmad stated that the ban was imposed under a law normally used to meet a threat to peace, but that there was no such threat. The government action was reportedly taken due to pressure from anti-Ahmadi Muslim clergymen

Refworld | Chronology for Ahmadis in Pakistan

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Shad

Shad

Veteran Member
paarsurrey said:
If a Constitution does not mention in a straightforward manner that it is secular; why name it as such.

Any compulsion please.

Secular is worldly or dealing with the day to day things.

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Because it is despite what a preamble says. There are no laws of a religious nature in Canada, no Biblical law, no Sharia Law, nothing but secular, without religion, laws. Is it that hard of a concept to grasp?

A secular state is a concept of secularism, whereby a state or country purports to be officially neutral in matters of religion, supporting neither religion nor irreligion.[1] A secular state also claims to treat all its citizens equally regardless of religion, and claims to avoid preferential treatment for a citizen from a particular religion/nonreligion over other religions/nonreligion. Secular states do not have a state religion (established religion) or equivalent, although the absence of a state religion does not necessarily mean that a state is fully secular; however, a true secular state should steadfastly maintain national governance without influence from religious factions; i.e. Separation of church and state.[2]
 
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