Why do you hate refugees?
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Plan for concentration camp in Texas.
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Why do you hate refugees?
Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Naive.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I don't. I love refugees!
I hate however illegal behaviors where the first act by a foreigner is to intentionally break the law.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What I call the reality of the matter. It's more like one being vigilant here on what is actually going on.
Your posts in this thread suggest the opposite.
"Intentionally break the law" in what way?
And before you answer: sneaking across the border between official entry points and then seeking asylum is legal and protected by international law.
Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
More like vigilante.
Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Those Haitians you helped smear....they were all refugees.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That is up to the community itself to decide. I don't live by Haitians. Plus they were not refugees. They were there only on temporary status.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Not when it involves illegals. It is called protecting our citizens.
Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Temporary Protected Status. Protected because they're refugees.
amorphous_constellation
Well-Known Member
Then alright, fine, maybe it would be better if we allowed them to stay, if there is going to end up being this awful conflation with concentration camps. But that doesn't answer hard questions at all, about why this is happening, (the mass immigration just for low wages) what can be done about it, and if there is actually going to be enough work to go around here, for those seeking lower wage manual labor jobs. Has anyone here made a thread on what's going on the darien gap? What's america possible role in that. Don't american corporations want to pay low wages, that immigrants will readily take, until they want better wages, in which case they try to get more immigrants who will opt for less?
Why don't other countries take in people like we do? I think maybe people should be spread around way more, because there are places on this planet that actually may lack diversity, and they could probably use it - not the western nations, which already get plenty of immigrants, but many of the other ones. And from this policy, wouldn't national policies between nations start to cease to differ, until eventually there were no borders anywhere?
From a leftist perspective, the argument is that the border should be porous. However, if it is only america that has policy, they simply will not get the desired result. It has to be everywhere having the same policy, simultaneously.
Calling it a "concentration camp" is histrionic.
Newsweek
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"On Tuesday Texas Land Commissioner Dawn Buckingham wrote to President-Elect Donald Trump offering him the use of a 1,402-acre ranch the state acquired in October for the construction of deportation facilities."
Of course they are calling it a "deportation facility", but it is a place where they are going to concentrate people, if they do this it will be a concentration camp. Don't be confused about that.
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Let's see what actually happens, & criticize
what is actually wrongful.
Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
There's a similar refugee and immigration crisis going on internationally. Other countries are experiencing it as well. It stems from a complex web of failed foreign, government internal and corporate policies. It's a whole lot of people's "fault".
"If you build it, they will come". The US has built the perfect system to encourage migration. Blaming one group achieves nothing and serves no one.
Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
I want to know the plans for accommodating, possibly, tens of thousands of people at once. Before I stop suspecting they'll just be concentration camps.
They're still humans. They'll need food, proper shelter, clean water, medicine and advocacy.
Foxfyre
Member
A concentration of illegal migrants the vast majority of whom will get a free ticket back to their home country. If their home country will not allow them to return, it really reinforces the importance that they be kept separate from normal American society, and we'll have to come up with another solution of where to deport them. You call it a 'concentration camp.' Most honorable people would consider it a necessary facility to enforce U.S. immigration laws and protect the American people.Newsweek
Newsweek provides in-depth analysis, news and opinion about international issues, technology, business, culture and politics.
"On Tuesday Texas Land Commissioner Dawn Buckingham wrote to President-Elect Donald Trump offering him the use of a 1,402-acre ranch the state acquired in October for the construction of deportation facilities."
Of course they are calling it a "deportation facility", but it is a place where they are going to concentrate people, if they do this it will be a concentration camp. Don't be confused about that.
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Most normal people do not want the worst of the worst from other countries relocating here. If they do not like being confined here, they no doubt will be given an option to sneak back into their home or other country of choice.
To suspect is one thing.
But the term has definitions & connotations.
Concentration camp - Wikipedia
for deportees, they wouldn't be reasonably called
"concentration camps".
But given Trump's vengeful nature, & his creating
an imperial presidency, it is indeed possible that
the could become worthy of being called that.
Let's not jump the gun.
I agree.
I hope you are right. I really hope I am being "histrionic".
But I remember you saying things like this to me in 2015 and 2016. And I don't think I was wrong then.
I honestly don't know what is going to happen here, I am not making predictions. But if it turns out that there are no human rights abuses, that will be because we saw this pattern and stopped it.
I wish people were more "histrionic" before other tragic events of history, instead of being shocked after.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Temporary. Meaning once it expires , they are not so called 'refugees' anymore.
McBell
Unbound
Except the "temporary" part is about the protection, not being a refugee...