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Planned Parenthood takes its show on the road

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
I wonder if other providers of controversial products will copy the idea. Suppose gun dealers, tobacco sellers or alcohol vendors followed suit? At least RV sellers would be happy.

The difference here is that the restricted item (gun, etc.) could be bought, but not moved across state or town lines.
 

MikeF

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I merely asked a hypothetical question. I’m not “worried” about it. But maybe you might become worried. Suppose the anti-abortion activists copy this mobile service idea with a “Pregnancy Counseling” vehicle. One shadowing and parking right next to the Planned Parenthood vehicle. Oh, and bringing lots of protesters with them. They wouldn’t be breaking any law. Would such a prospect be worrisome?

I'm glad you're not worried.

As to protesters, I think at this point there are no illusions as to whether they will be present.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
No, it would be worse than nothing, actually. The mobile abortion clinic could not handle the increased medical needs it’s presence could cause.

That can be said of all medical facilities. Our hospitals had to really prioritise their emergencies and were overrun for quite some time due to the pandemic. Affecting how they operate and quality of medical care. But we managed in the end. Granted it showed us that we need to fix up a lot of areas in our healthcare system and how the government funds it. But still.
I mean a mobile PP is still better than nothing, which is what I’m hearing if there’s no local hospitals in this area.
It’s not the best and indeed a hospital and PP should be stationed there it sounds like to me. Maybe a few depending on the needs of the community.
Indeed if a mobile PP is in the area and there’s no close by hospitals, that sounds like a major failure of the government to me

And bringing up another potential price, there could be additional police costs. Suppose the mobile abortion vehicle causes abortion protesters to show up, with an attendant need for more police. Who pays for that? Probably the overwhelmed local authorities.
Like I said, I don’t know how it works in the US. So I can’t comment one way or the other. Others seem to think it won’t so I dunno.
 
No, it would be worse than nothing, actually. The mobile abortion clinic could not handle the increased medical needs it’s presence could cause.

Perhaps the solution is to let the women have abortions in a safe and convenient medical facility close to their homes?

(And you are also wrong, a mobile service run by professionals is obviously far better than an illegal abortion)

And bringing up another potential price, there could be additional police costs. Suppose the mobile abortion vehicle causes abortion protesters to show up, with an attendant need for more police. Who pays for that? Probably the overwhelmed local authorities.

"Goddamn liberal commies! First they try to mitigate the harm we caused with our abortion ban, now they are wasting taxpayers money because the police need to protect patients and medical professionals from the violence we want to inflict on them!"
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
No, it would be worse than nothing, actually. The mobile abortion clinic could not handle the increased medical needs it’s presence could cause.
If that's a genuine concern, then the solution would be to reinstate their rights.

And bringing up another potential price, there could be additional police costs. Suppose the mobile abortion vehicle causes abortion protesters to show up, with an attendant need for more police. Who pays for that? Probably the overwhelmed local authorities.
That blame for that would fall upon the protesters.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
What happens when abortion is not a legal procedure, it goes underground with typically non hygienic conditions as has happened in the past and will likely happen again in the US
Every woman In The US can still get an abortion. If they go somewhere shady it is on them. My wife had to travel 300 miles to get an operation she needed. We took responsibility and figured out how to do that. There are plenty of organizations popping up that will give a woman the money to get the abortion in a different state. No rights have been taken away by the Supreme Court.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
I wonder if other providers of controversial products will copy the idea. Suppose gun dealers, tobacco sellers or alcohol vendors followed suit? At least RV sellers would be happy.

Not only have alcohol vendors done that where state laws vary, they've done it internationally.

The Swedish-Norwegian border is just one example.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Every woman In The US can still get an abortion. If they go somewhere shady it is on them. My wife had to travel 300 miles to get an operation she needed. We took responsibility and figured out how to do that. There are plenty of organizations popping up that will give a woman the money to get the abortion in a different state. No rights have been taken away by the Supreme Court.

Really? What total hog wash. The rights of women voters in certain states have most definitely been taken away forcing them to either use illegal means or get out of that state
 
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crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
Every woman In The US can still get an abortion. If they go somewhere shady it is on them. My wife had to travel 300 miles to get an operation she needed. We took responsibility and figured out how to do that. There are plenty of organizations popping up that will give a woman the money to get the abortion in a different state. No rights have been taken away by the Supreme Court.
Would your wife or her doctor have to face criminal charges if they did the operation close to your home?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I think healthcare should be a State matter and the State should pay for abortions.
So it is not turned into a business.

But even in a traditionally Catholic country like mine, the State does not want women to use abortion as birth-control method.
Since in most regions the pill is either affordable or for free.
On TV there was an anonymous testimony. A 17 year old girl who went to one of those State facilities to get abortion, had to be visited by a psychologist first.
She asked the girl why she hadnt used any contraceptive...she asked her anything.
Questions like: " was he your boyfriend?" "How old is he?", " how did it happen?".
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Every woman In The US can still get an abortion. If they go somewhere shady it is on them. My wife had to travel 300 miles to get an operation she needed. We took responsibility and figured out how to do that. There are plenty of organizations popping up that will give a woman the money to get the abortion in a different state. No rights have been taken away by the Supreme Court.
I see.

So, if the supreme court decides that states no longer need to supply, say, clean tap water, and as a consequence of this act several states decide to terminate the supply of clean tap water to their citizens, it doesn't count as your rights being taken away because you could still travel to another state where tap water is available if you REALLY want tap water.

And, hey, while we're at it, let's extend your logic: We can no longer claim that Nazi Germany took away the rights of Jewish citizens either, because those Jews could still have fled to some other country where there wasn't mass killing, incarceration or human rights violations against Jews.

Good logic.

Making it necessarily more difficult to gain access to a thing, or putting distinct barriers in place that could prevent certain people in certain situations from being able to access said thing, is a restriction on the freedom and rights of people who wish to access that thing. This is extremely basic logic.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Have a serious question. Does anyone have a answer?
Question: Doesn't the Hyde Amendment come into play here?
 
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