Poll: Are you an animal?

[Shadow Wolf]

I can't say

Closer.
I was thinking of Pearl Jam.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The Pirahã tribe, who have never heard of a god, are they more evolved than us?

Yes, but they seem more animist which is probably what our earliest ancestors were before religion and gods as we think of them.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm human, but on days when my mood is foul when I'm hating people I have taken to saying those I like aren't people because I hate people but I don't hate them. So they're not people.

 

[Secret Chief]

kale?

@JustGeorge has told me I've got to eat it because it's an "essential mineral." Frankly, I have my doubts.

 

[SalixIncendium]

And if not then what are you?

< Aham Brahmamsi.

In My True Nature

Neither am I the mind nor intellect nor ego, Neither am I the organs of hearing, nor of tasting, smelling, nor seeing, Neither am I the sky nor the earth, neither the fire nor the air, Neither am I the vital breath nor the five vital airs, Neither am I the seven ingredients nor the five...

www.religiousforums.com

 

[Secret Chief]

Humans are giant ugly bags of mostly water. Water counts as "mineral," doesn't it? So I guess we're all mostly "mineral," but since we're also ugly, that makes us "animal."

And my mate's sister is a proper turnip.

 

[Secret Chief]

My cat thinks he is superior.

Minor correction: he knows he is superior.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Likewise, pretending that a man is just like an animal is a backward way of thinking that leads to immorality.

A man isn't like an animal. A man is an animal.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Because man is far far above an animal - if he chooses to be so.

How does a man get above himself?

 

[SalixIncendium]

Do animals commit rape, pillage, genocide or wars?????

Or do hunting for fun????

Yes.

 

[SalixIncendium]

You know who made those definitions?
Was is humans or animals?

Yes.

 

[SalixIncendium]

I have a kitchen drawer full of forks and spoons made of stainless steel. Are you telling me that because they're all just the same stainless steel, then the spoons are also forks and the forks are also spoons?

No. That would be silly. But thanks for the analogy.

In your analogy, stainless steel = animals. Forks = humans. Spoons (knives, spatulas, ladles, etc.) = non-human animals.

 

[Eddi]

Yes.

Animals make deliberate efforts to systematically destroy entire populations (genocide)????

They don’t they live in balance with nature, unlike humankind

 

[Secret Chief]

No. That would be silly. But thanks for the analogy.

In your analogy, stainless steel = animals. Forks = humans. Spoons (knives, spatulas, ladles, etc.) = non-human animals.

Ah, but what about olive pitters?

 

[SalixIncendium]

Animals make deliberate efforts to systematically destroy entire populations (genocide)????

Yep. People do this quite frequently.

They don’t they live in balance with nature, unlike humankind

"Humankind" are animals.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Ah, but what about olive pitters?

No. I think those are made out of cast aluminum.

 

[Tomef]

Are you an animal?

Yes or no?

And if not then what are you?

Mineral???

Vegetable???

Animal but also person. Other animals could be thought of as persons too, I suppose. I don’t think there’s a definitive dividing line.

 

[Secret Chief]

Animal but also person. Other animals could be thought of as persons too, I suppose. I don’t think there’s a definitive dividing line.

Well, I always like to point out that animal personhood research comes from different theoretical directions: animal rights, animal welfare, compassionate conservation, animal rights law, and many related disciplines. The term “personhood” is taken to lie in three main characteristics, including the capacity to act intentionally, the capacity to experience feelings, and the possession of moral worth. This division is complementary to three approaches: the perfectionist approach, the humanistic approach, and the interactive approach, with the third approach being the strongest. The basic idea is that personhood can be linked to legal rights based on recognition of intrinsic rights based on sentience or other characteristics of a living being, including personality. The move toward recognizing animal personhood in education promises to signify a return to a nonanthropocentric ethic that characterizes both the most transformative forms of education for environmental sustainability and the type of education that stresses responsibility and compassion toward all living beings. This type of education, at both the school and university levels, supports both ecocentrism and animal ethics and supports the rights to life of all living beings on Earth—including, to state the obvious, humans.
Animal Personhood in Sustainability Education

 

[Eddi]

Yep. People do this quite frequently.


"Humankind" are animals.

I was talking about non-human animals, as the person that was in response to was using the term "animal" to refer to non humans

And I think you know that but are just being difficult

Non human animals don't wage war or genocide

They are purer than humans and morr moral

 

[SalixIncendium]

And I think you know that but are just being difficult

Don't try shift the blame to me because you chose not to be impeccable with your word and use lazy wording, especially given the subject matter in this thread. If you mean non-human animal, then you should have specified that as I did in a previous post instead of lazily using the term "animal."