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People with little or no clothing on is not pornography.
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"Pornography Offends the Holy Ghost"
- Thread starter Skwim
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People with little or no clothing on is not pornography.
Of course not, that could be art. But you are misrepresenting what was said as well.
The quote is:
Bad pictures as in pictures portraying sexual acts are pornography.
por·nog·ra·phy
pôrˈnäɡrəfē/
noun
- printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.
synonyms: erotica, pornographic material, dirty
Scott C.
Just one guy
Since I am a Mormon, it probably comes as no surprise that I see the video as spot on. The way I read the instructions is that LDS leaders of children should not show the film to a group of children at church. It's not intended for that type of group instruction. Church teachers of children can be inspired as to how to teach, based on the video. But parents, who have the primary responsibility for teaching their children, may very well feel they want to show the video to their kids. That's the parents decision.
I'm flabbergasted by some of the objections to the video that I read in this thread. It's a beautfiul and positive video to both directly encourage children to make good choices, and to aid parents in teaching their children, and to do it without using guit and shame.
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Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
The reason that you do not see what is wrong is that there is more harm to approaching porn in this manner than in ignoring it all together. Many Christians do not realize that there is a net positive to pornography. The teachings about it are outright wrong.
Scott C.
Just one guy
If you think porn is a positive, then I can see why you don't like the video. But my view of porn is the polar opposite of yours. I am curious if those who oppose porn find the video as useful and productive.
I tried to ask the Holy Ghost but he said he couldn't leave his puter because he was on Pornwatch duty and to come back tomorrow.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I know that porn is a net positive. You have mere belief and that is quite often wrong
So what is the net positive of allowing underage children to watch porn?
Skwim
Veteran Member
That's what I kind of figured.
As I've pointed out, it makes no attempt whatsoever to even tell the kids what qualifies as pornography and what doesn't. There's a huge difference between a film showing nudists playing volleyball, swimming, and lying in the sun; and films showing two naked people engaged in mutual fellatio and cunnilingus. Yet it wants kids to believe that any pictures of people with little or no clothes on are not only "bad pictures," but dangerous pictures. Moreover it doesn't bother to even hint at what the danger may consist of. "Will I go blind if I look at pictures of people with little or no clothes on? Will I go to hell?" Then there's the psychological manipulation that pornography should give one bad feelings: "These kinds of pictures give you a bad feeling." The implication being that if they don't then something's wrong with you. It also advises the kids to talk to their parents or a trusted adult, but it never says why or about what. Here's a subject so embarrassing that even adults are afraid to explain it in a video, yet you shouldn't be at all embarrassed at having watched it. Just walk down stairs and talk about it. "Hey mom, I just saw a video of this guy putting his penis into the mouth of this girl really far and she didn't even gag. How did she do that? Boy, I gag if I even swallow a piece of candy wrong.. . . . . . . . . .Hey mom! . . . .MOM!. . . . . MOM! wake up!!"
As for being well put together, the smarmy, one-minute introduction of innocent playful children is better suited for per-kindegartners rather than pre-teenagers. The production has the earmarks of Blushing Old Maid Pictures Incorporated. If you can't tell kids what you're talking about and why, then perhaps you're not the one to even try.
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Subduction Zone
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When a person strawman's the argument of another it indicates that they know that they are on the wrong side.
Thank you.
What straw man?
You said porn nets a positive.
The thread is about how to talk to your underage children about porn they watched on the net.
So again, what is the net positive of allowing underage children to watch porn?
Skwim
Veteran Member
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
"So what is the net positive of allowing underage children to watch porn?"
You said it, I didn't. That makes it a strawman.
It is.
No, it is about how horrible that video was.
Wow! Repeating a strawman after it has been pointed out to you. You must REALLY know that you are in the wrong.
Thank you again.
You brought up porn being a net positive in a thread about a video tackling the problem of underage children watching porn.
But if you want to run and hide from that then fine.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Don't know why your getting upset. It was a simple question. You don't want to answer it then fine.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Don't know why your getting upset. It was a simple question. You don't want to answer it then fine.
What makes you think that I am upset? I have merely identified your errors.
And I don't answer strawman questions. They are on the order of:
"Have you quit beating your wife yet?" They are dishonest questions that have a false assumption in them.
Nope the answer is simple. There is no false assumption.
The answer is underage children's consumption of porn has no positive effect at all. You know this, I know this, the only people who disagree are pedophiles.
It is detrimental to a child's psyche causing possible life long trauma. Because their brains are not developed enough to process sexual activities yet. Which is the point of the video. How parents should talk to their kids about any porn they might have encountered, and how to help them deal with it, and hopefully stay away from it. At least until they are old enough to process it.
They will eventually mature and be able to process it and make their own decision on if they wish to view porn or not when they are older. But until that day comes it is the parents responsibility to limit as much as possible of that kind of content for their children.
Why is that so hard of an answer?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Ask a proper question and I will answer it for you.