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"Pornography Offends the Holy Ghost"

What do you think of the video?

  • Right on point

    Votes: 8 34.8%
  • Fairly good

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Somewhat misleading

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Wholly alarmist

    Votes: 9 39.1%
  • A solution in search of a problem

    Votes: 3 13.0%

  • Total voters
    23

Curious George

Veteran Member
I think adults tend to forget when they were kids themselves.

Just telling them to stay away from it isn't enough. Kids will need some kind of a release because keeping this kind of hormonal urge artificially pent-up because of some self righteous religious ideology is going to do far more harm because they'll start seeking out places, people, and situations where they shouldn't be.

The video doesn't even address masturbation and other forms of personal release as an alternative so things can properly settle down for them when sexual feelings arise in order to avoid real life consequences from experimentation gone awry. New York State had far better instructional material and that was shown in groups at middle/high school level in health class.

Making videos like this is just about as worthless as the "Just Say No" campaign so far aside from maybe being a reminder for parents to have a talk with their kids.

Using Heavenly Father as a deterrent can only go so far. I think a deaf-mute Heavenly Father isn't going to do much good. It's religious stuff so it's not surprising it's used in a coming of age video.
Umm, did you see the same video? This isn't a teenage adolescent video. This is a holy cow kids are being exposed to porn at a very young age video.

This is a religious groups addressing the issue. They did so in a way that very much portrays urges, curiosity and even looking at porn as something that is not shameful, albeit to the vilification of porn.

As far as religious attitudes and sex go, I am really surprised at the negativity this film is getting here.
 

Scott C.

Just one guy
If seeing people with out any clothes on offends the Holy Spirit, then how do the Latter Day Saints, explain about Adam and Eve being created without clothes?

This is very simple.
Pornography is bad.
Parents should protect children from pornography.
The video is a good help for parents and children.

Let's not over analyze the details. It's a short video and parents can fill in the gaps and provide more details as needed. Grown ups understand that there are times when being naked or mostly naked is ok and times when it is not. Context matters. We can explain that to the children. And yes, indecency falls along a spectrum from slightly inappropriate on one end to hard core porn on the other. No need for the video to spell that out. Parents can explain it as necessary.
 

Scott C.

Just one guy
Umm, did you see the same video? This isn't a teenage adolescent video. This is a holy cow kids are being exposed to porn at a very young age video.

This is a religious groups addressing the issue. They did so in a way that very much portrays urges, curiosity and even looking at porn as something that is not shameful, albeit to the vilification of porn.

As far as religious attitudes and sex go, I am really surprised at the negativity this film is getting here.

Yes, yes, yes. Thank you for getting it.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Umm, did you see the same video? This isn't a teenage adolescent video. This is a holy cow kids are being exposed to porn at a very young age video.

This is a religious groups addressing the issue. They did so in a way that very much portrays urges, curiosity and even looking at porn as something that is not shameful, albeit to the vilification of porn.

As far as religious attitudes and sex go, I am really surprised at the negativity this film is getting here.
My surprise was why there wasn't parental controls activated on the kids phone in the first place. ;0)
 

PureX

Veteran Member
It looks like a perfectly reasonable video to me, except that it's clearly aimed at only Christian children, while pornography is a danger to ALL children. I find it very disappointing that in their apparent rush to use their specific religious vernacular, over and over again, the producers just disregarded all the children that are not familiar with it, or who's parents are not accepting of this religious ideological vernacular.

This seems to be a constant problem with 'evangelical' type religion: this need to propagandize for their religion at every possible opportunity and to the complete disregard of anyone else's needs or ideals.
 
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sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
If you think porn is a positive, then I can see why you don't like the video. But my view of porn is the polar opposite of yours. I am curious if those who oppose porn find the video as useful and productive.
What is wrong with children viewing porn (legal consensual ones created by consenting adults) ? I have always been curious about what the justification is? Why is watching folks having sex considered bad while watching people banging each other in the football field good?
 

PureX

Veteran Member
What is wrong with children viewing porn (legal consensual ones created by consenting adults) ? I have always been curious about what the justification is? Why is watching folks having sex considered bad while watching people banging each other in the football field good?
Sex is a complicated human interaction. It's far more than just a biological function. And children do not have the capacity to understand all the emotional intricacies of adult sexual interaction.

Also, porn is not just pictures of people having sexual intercourse! It's an industry designed to make money off the secret "dirty" fantasies of other people. Pornography does not accurately represent human sexual interaction. It represents, mostly, the interactions that we specifically do NOT engage in with each other, because we know it's exploitive, abusive, and otherwise unhealthy, but that we still find titillating to fantasize about. Children don't understand this kind of complexity. They see it and think it's "real". They think this is really how adults interact with each other, sexually. Which is a horrible misconception that can cause them to mimic horrible behaviors, unknowingly.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
This is very simple.
Pornography is bad.
Parents should protect children from pornography.
The video is a good help for parents and children.

Let's not over analyze the details. It's a short video and parents can fill in the gaps and provide more details as needed. Grown ups understand that there are times when being naked or mostly naked is ok and times when it is not. Context matters. We can explain that to the children. And yes, indecency falls along a spectrum from slightly inappropriate on one end to hard core porn on the other. No need for the video to spell that out. Parents can explain it as necessary.
When you start with a blanket false statement it tends to negate your entire post.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What is wrong with children viewing porn (legal consensual ones created by consenting adults) ? I have always been curious about what the justification is? Why is watching folks having sex considered bad while watching people banging each other in the football field good?
I would consider it bad only in the sense that kids may not be aware of all the consequences that can occur through various acts of irresponsibility and various health and mental dangers. In some tribal cultures sex between adults is open and free. Kids in tribal societies don't seem to really pay any attention nor are interested because it's not taboo challenging their curiosity. They already know, so life is pretty normal and they continue playing in puddles and kicking balls or whatever it is that kids do.

I think bottom line is kids should be just kids and not have to worry about these kind of things until their body starts changing along with their interest on the subject. Then it's time for a proper talk and direction I think.

I'm wondering if a number of families, especially religious ones punish their kids because they have been taught so far to vilify the nude body and the means of procreation at all costs. When you make something forbidden or taboo I think it makes kids get all more into it because hey it's adults stuff.

I don't like the video because it implys pornography is all "bad". It's simply not all bad. Like anything tasteful and untasteful in life, the positives and the negatives need to be explained in proper detail rather than gross blanket determinations over the whole ****bang Kaboodle as being bad when in actuality it's a natural predisposition to gravitate to whatever makes you curious or sets off certain sensations.

The best way to protect kids is education and teaching of responsibility. Not Heavenly Father would be displeased or whatever.
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
What is wrong with children viewing porn (legal consensual ones created by consenting adults) ? I have always been curious about what the justification is? Why is watching folks having sex considered bad while watching people banging each other in the football field good?
I am not sure if you are being serious. Firstly, as another poster pointed out porn is an edited and often unrealistic version of the real thing. In many instances porn is capitalism exploiting sexual fantasies and not all together educational. That said, seeing any adults engaged in sex, realistic or otherwise, is not age appropriate for young children given our society. While I am not disagreeing that a different society might be possible, we do not have a different society. In our society, we have shown that exposing childten to sexually explicit material correlates to harm and is therefore abuse. Why would you think that it is ok to expose children to this type of material?
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
That video was stupid. Porn isn't literally all over the place (billboards?!) and it's not just nude pictures.
What is wrong with children viewing porn (legal consensual ones created by consenting adults) ? I have always been curious about what the justification is? Why is watching folks having sex considered bad while watching people banging each other in the football field good?
There's nothing wrong with it. Children aren't morons and sex doesn't scar you for life. It's just the anxieties and fears of adults being pushed on children. I accidentally saw my parents having sex as a little kid and saw porn at a young age but I wasn't warped over it. They only thing is that the kid probably won't understand but you can just explain it.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
That video was stupid. Porn isn't literally all over the place (billboards?!) and it's not just nude pictures.

There's nothing wrong with it. Children aren't morons and sex doesn't scar you for life. It's just the anxieties and fears of adults being pushed on children. I accidentally saw my parents having sex as a little kid and saw porn at a young age but I wasn't warped over it. They only thing is that the kid probably won't understand but you can just explain it.

The unhealthy approach of treating sexuality as if it were a "sin" probably does much more harm than viewing pornography would. If your kid sees porn explain it to him, or her. And try to be honest. Don't attach false fears to sex and the child will be fine.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
I find it strange how much people fear-monger over porn and other sexual media but don't say anything about the dangers of seeing graphic violence. It's very easy to come across murder, suicide, execution, deadly accident, extreme animal torture, etc. videos. Teens often watch them or have their friends watch them as a sort of rite of passage. Unlike porn, viewing such things actually can be traumatizing and is unhealthy.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
And it was explained to you why that is a failed argument on your part. Believing a disclaimer when the evidence tells you that it is a misleading statement only shows willful gullibility on the part believing the disclaimer.

LoLz

Get over it already.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Well first off, It's doesn't offend the Holy Spirit.
So I don't know where the Latter day Saints get that at.

If seeing people with out any clothes on offends the Holy Spirit, then how do the Latter Day Saints, explain about Adam and Eve being created without clothes ?

I guess to the Latter Day Saints that would be pornography also ?
That's the message. People with little or no clothes on = pornography, and offends the holy ghost.
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WHY? Because the Mormon Church says it does.
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