Powerlessness is a lie

[Willamena]

"Choices we want", you must live a sheltered life, some of us have to make choices we don't want but some how if honest we know we chose to be in that situation.

It's a figure of speech.

 

[idav]

Denying that powerlessness exists strikes me as roughly analogous to denying that limitations exist; while such denial makes for an appealing, idealistic philosophy, it is also something of a foolish one. Failure to recognize limits are a thing tends to make it more difficult to navigate around them and find alternative paths (or one does not bother to seek an alternative path at all and spits into the wind).

I'm not really sure about that. Saying we are powerless is like saying that we should just succumb to limitations, we certainly have true power to overcome what we set our mind to, granted within reason, but I wouldn't call that powerless.

 

[Quintessence]

I'm not really sure about that. Saying we are powerless is like saying that we should just succumb to limitations, we certainly have true power to overcome what we set our mind to, granted within reason, but I wouldn't call that powerless.

You talk about "succumbing to limitations" like that's a bad thing. Seems to me limits simply are. Failure to recognize one's own limits is often bad, though.

As an example, many universities use a math placement test to help determine where a student needs to start off in the mathematics courses. This is a way of recognizing the limitations of the student so students aren't placed them in a math course that they have poor odds of doing well in. Good students realize the value of this process - following it means they won't waste their time and money doing something that is beyond them right now. The bad students don't see the value - they sign up for math classes that are beyond them and then whine when they fail it, have to drop it, or do poorly. Put another way, when a student ignores the placement results they put themselves in a position of powerlessness when they sign up for a math course that is too advanced for them. If they had instead succumbed to limitations and signed up for what was at their skill level, they'd do much better.

 

[idav]

You talk about "succumbing to limitations" like that's a bad thing. Seems to me limits simply are. Failure to recognize one's own limits is often bad, though.

As an example, many universities use a math placement test to help determine where a student needs to start off in the mathematics courses. This is a way of recognizing the limitations of the student so students aren't placed them in a math course that they have poor odds of doing well in. Good students realize the value of this process - following it means they won't waste their time and money doing something that is beyond them right now. The bad students don't see the value - they sign up for math classes that are beyond them and then whine when they fail it, have to drop it, or do poorly. Put another way, when a student ignores the placement results they put themselves in a position of powerlessness when they sign up for a math course that is too advanced for them. If they had instead succumbed to limitations and signed up for what was at their skill level, they'd do much better.

I can see that, that's almost the exact argument my significant other presented lol.

 

[Quintessence]

I can see that, that's almost the exact argument my significant other presented lol.

Haha... do they work in education too?

 

[idav]

Haha... do they work in education too?

She probably counts as more educated but we were talking about how help groups might actually be helpful.

 

[blü 2]

Why do I get the feeling that your last sentence is a lot like I'm praying for you.

Thanks for the good wishes! And the very best to you as well.

 

[gnomon]

You seem to have a profound understanding of garbage.

Thank you. I interpreted the nature of this thread very well. Yes, I know garbage where I read it.