Praising Putin.

[John D. Brey]

Whereas Jesus said nothing about homosexuality but that when it was normalized it would be the primary sign of the end of the age, his disciple, St. Paul, put forth a theological treatise in the first chapter of his letter to the Roman's that takes a stab at why homosexuality will be the final sign marking the final decades of the end of civilization as we know it. In his deconstruction of homosexuality, he implies that a homosexual mind and mentality comes before, and is the root cause concerning, rampant biological homosexuality. Exegesis of the mid to latter part of Romans chapter one justifies the fact that St. Paul explicitly makes this claim. What he's implying is that a mind and or a society that doesn't distinguish between binary-reality versus an infinite anything goes (or merely non-binary) state of affairs, is a mind (and or society) with fatal flaws and fatal liabilities.

In the thread discussing St. Paul's take on same-sex marriage, a theory was proffered that, if it's fully understood, leads to praise for Vladimir Putin. While the whole world gangs up on Putin, in truth, Putin is more like the character John Galt in Putin's fellow citizen's universally renown book Atlas Shrugged.

Though today's Christians pile on to the gang rape of Putin, their ancient ancestors, to include St. Paul, and the other Apostles, would be appalled at the Putin haters and not at Putin himself; they'd be appalled that Christians have become so blind and so willing to sell their soul for a crust of bread from their globalist, universalist, humanist, masters.

May our Lord strengthen Putin and enfeeble the feeble-minded oblivious to the fact that in their lust to destroy Putin they're actually destroying the world with whom they're so madly in love (1 John 2:15).




John

 

[Mock Turtle]

In the thread discussing St. Paul's take on same-sex marriage, a theory was proffered that, if it's fully understood, leads to praise for Vladimir Putin. While the whole world gangs up on Putin, in truth, Putin is more like the character John Galt in Putin's fellow citizen's universally renown book Atlas Shrugged.

Though today's Christians pile on to the gang rape of Putin, their ancient ancestors, to include St. Paul, and the other Apostles, would be appalled at the Putin haters and not at Putin himself.

John

Sad isn't it - that there were such people in the past and even now. You one?

PS Funny you should mention the gang-rape of Putin, since judging by a childhood photo of him where he looked a bit effeminate, one wonders if he didn't suffer from some sexual abuse as a child and hence his insecurities - leading to his coldness and macho image and such.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Praise for tyrinac actions? This is more than the person, as it can become a mentality of a Nation.

No side can cast the first stone, but all can learn peace and mutual cooperation in the diversity of cultures.

".......Such a peace demandeth that the Great Powers should resolve, for the sake of the tranquillity of the peoples of the earth, to be fully reconciled among themselves. Should any king take up arms against another, all should unitedly arise and prevent him. If this be done, the nations of the world will no longer require any armaments, except for the purpose of preserving the security of their realms and of maintaining internal order within their territories....." Baha'u'llah

Bahá'í Reference Library - Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, Pages 249-250

Regards Tony

 

[exchemist]

In the thread discussing St. Paul's take on same-sex marriage, a theory was proffered that, if it's fully understood, leads to praise for Vladimir Putin. While the whole world gangs up on Putin, in truth, Putin is more like the character John Galt in Putin's fellow citizen's universally renown book Atlas Shrugged.

Though today's Christians pile on to the gang rape of Putin, their ancient ancestors, to include St. Paul, and the other Apostles, would be appalled at the Putin haters and not at Putin himself; they'd be appalled that Christians have become so blind and so willing to sell their soul for a crust of bread from their globalist, universalist, humanist, masters.

May our Lord strengthen Putin and enfeeble the feeble-minded oblivious to the fact that in their lust to destroy Putin they're actually destroying the world with whom they're so madly in love (1 John 2:15).




John

This is deranged.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I am sure all great leaders a some time loved their mothers.
However small redeeming qualities do not make up in any way for their capacity for evil.
Putin is no exception.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I am sure all great despotic leaders at some time loved their mothers.
However small redeeming qualities do not make up in any way for their capacity for evil.
Putin is no exception.

 

[John D. Brey]

Sad isn't it - that there were such people in the past and even now. You one?

Apparently so.




John

 

[John D. Brey]

PS Funny you should mention the gang-rape of Putin, since judging by a childhood photo of him where he looked a bit effeminate, one wonders if he didn't suffer from some sexual abuse as a child and hence his insecurities - leading to his coldness and macho image and such.

One can only hope you're not speaking from personal experience.



John

 

[Guitar's Cry]

If I am reading this right, you are praising Putin for his anti-lgbtq stance?

 

[John D. Brey]

".......Such a peace demandeth that the Great Powers should resolve, for the sake of the tranquillity of the peoples of the earth, to be fully reconciled among themselves. Should any king take up arms against another, all should unitedly arise and prevent him. If this be done, the nations of the world will no longer require any armaments, except for the purpose of preserving the security of their realms and of maintaining internal order within their territories....." Baha'u'llah

Bahá'í Reference Library - Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, Pages 249-250

Peace, peace, when there is no peace.

Jeremiah 6:14.

And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

Matthew 24:6.​

John

 

[John D. Brey]

This is deranged.

One could probably say that derangement, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.



John

 

[John D. Brey]

If I am reading this right, you are praising Putin for his anti-lgbtq stance?

No. But there is that isn't there.



John

 

[John D. Brey]

I am sure all great despotic leaders at some time loved their mothers.
However small redeeming qualities do not make up in any way for their capacity for evil.
Putin is no exception.

Are you quoting yourself on that?



John

 

[viole]

In the thread discussing St. Paul's take on same-sex marriage, a theory was proffered that, if it's fully understood, leads to praise for Vladimir Putin. While the whole world gangs up on Putin, in truth, Putin is more like the character John Galt in Putin's fellow citizen's universally renown book Atlas Shrugged.

Though today's Christians pile on to the gang rape of Putin, their ancient ancestors, to include St. Paul, and the other Apostles, would be appalled at the Putin haters and not at Putin himself; they'd be appalled that Christians have become so blind and so willing to sell their soul for a crust of bread from their globalist, universalist, humanist, masters.

May our Lord strengthen Putin and enfeeble the feeble-minded oblivious to the fact that in their lust to destroy Putin they're actually destroying the world with whom they're so madly in love (1 John 2:15).




John

Looks like exterminating women and children is much more tolerable than allowing same sex marriage. Is that another pearl of Christian morality?

ciao

- viole

 

[John D. Brey]

Sorry, but there are no good guys this time. As the scripture says they're all corrupt. No one does good. They've all gone out of the way. No one seeks God. And God askes the rhetorical question ...

Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the Lord.

The scripture in Psalm 15 indicates that we should contemn a vile person. That not to do so is wrong. This is no doubt partly because in Psalm 12 we see that the wicked walk on every side when the vilest people are exalted. So I won't flatter them even if they're a prince.

We should never praise or exalt the wicked. They're doing bad. I sympathize with Putin's point of view. NATO started this. I contemn also the globalists that are behind NATO and the whole Ukraine crisis. If not for them Ukraine would be in peace right now and would not have been militarized and so Russia would not have been threatened by Ukraine. That to me is very evil of NATO because they're stirring up strife and trouble where there should not have been any. All apparently in an attempt to close Russia in and slowly choke her. I guess that's because NATO seems to want to rule the world and sees Russia as the primary threat to their hegemony. Such dirty tricks I despise.

But, I cannot support Putin either. I believe God warned me in a dream about Putin years ago. Many of my fellow American Christians have been praising Putin for years because he apparently embraced Russian Orthodox Christainity; but I've always been against that. For one thing because my dream warned me, secondly because of his actions throughout the years and finally just because my gut instinct is to distrust him and anyone in places of power in this world. As we know the world is given over to the prince of this world: satan. So that no one can be trusted who has worldly power.

I don't believe Putin is a real Christian in his heart. I believe he is a Russian and so he supports the Russian church; but woe unto those other Christians who want to preach or teach in Russia. I've heard reports that they aren't always well treated. Jesus taught know them by their fruits.

As a Christian I'll never trust Putin. And the scripture says put not your trust in princes, neither in the son of man in whom there is no help.

I agree with most of what you say. The point of this thread is that the West is practicing a form of human thought that will bring on destruction that's not even in Putin's arsenal.

Because of the nature of human understanding, and interpretation of facts, truth, history, etc., sovereign nations must assume, as our founding fathers in the US noted in their declaration of independence, the right to conduct wars they see as righteous, and just, though everyone on the other side may label their actions as "evil."

Putin is not evil. He's conducting war for purposes, many of which I agree with, that he sees as necessary for his country. The West can disagree with Putin. But when they claim he's evil for something that is the god-given right of a sovereign nation, i.e., the right to conduct war according to their interpretation of the facts, and history, and not the other sides interpretation of facts, the West is proving why they've sanctified same-sex marriages: they've lost the balance that comes from understanding the binary nature of the current physics of the current world. They're toying with forces they don't believe in such that when they come upon them they will look like the antediluvian's did when they asked with sad wet eyes: "who'll stop the rain?"




John

 

[icehorse]

In the thread discussing St. Paul's take on same-sex marriage, a theory was proffered that, if it's fully understood, leads to praise for Vladimir Putin. While the whole world gangs up on Putin, in truth, Putin is more like the character John Galt in Putin's fellow citizen's universally renown book Atlas Shrugged.

Though today's Christians pile on to the gang rape of Putin, their ancient ancestors, to include St. Paul, and the other Apostles, would be appalled at the Putin haters and not at Putin himself; they'd be appalled that Christians have become so blind and so willing to sell their soul for a crust of bread from their globalist, universalist, humanist, masters.

May our Lord strengthen Putin and enfeeble the feeble-minded oblivious to the fact that in their lust to destroy Putin they're actually destroying the world with whom they're so madly in love (1 John 2:15).

John

Sounds like you're advocating for total anarchy? Do you really think that's what Jesus was calling for?

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Are you quoting yourself on that?



John

Not quite.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

I agree with most of what you say. The point of this thread is that the West is practicing a form of human thought that will bring on destruction that's not even in Putin's arsenal.

Because of the nature of human understanding, and interpretation of facts, truth, history, etc., sovereign nations must assume, as our founding fathers in the US noted in their declaration of independence, the right to conduct wars they see as righteous, and just, though everyone on the other side may label their actions as "evil."

Putin is not evil. He's conducting war for purposes, many of which I agree with, that he sees as necessary for his country. The West can disagree with Putin. But when they claim he's evil for something that is the god-given right of a sovereign nation, i.e., the right to conduct war according to their interpretation of the facts, and history, and not the other sides interpretation of facts, the West is proving why they've sanctified same-sex marriages: they've lost the balance that comes from understanding the binary nature of the current physics of the current world. They're toying with forces they don't believe in such that when they come upon them they will look like the antediluvian's did when they asked with sad wet eyes: "who'll stop the rain?"




John

Wouldn't this also justify Hitler's actions? After all, his was a holy war based on percieved traditions from a sovereign nation with some homophobia thrown in there to boot.

Do you praise Hitler as well?

 

[The Hammer]

globalist, universalist, humanist,

I see nothing wrong with these concepts of brotherly Love.

You do though?

I find that Jesus would be ashamed.
--------
Globalist: relating to or advocating the operation or planning of economic and foreign policy on a global basis.

Universalist:
CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY
1. a person who believes that all humankind will eventually be saved.
2. a person advocating loyalty to and concern for others without regard to national or other allegiances.

Humanist: an outlook or system of thought attaching prime importance to human rather than divine or supernatural matters. Humanist beliefs stress the potential value and goodness of human beings, emphasize common human needs, and seek solely rational ways of solving human problems.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Peace, peace, when there is no peace.

Jeremiah 6:14.

And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

Matthew 24:6.​

John

I see that rhe process to obtain peace was given in 1844 with the Biblical promises unfolding.

Gods Will and time, not our will and our time be done.

Regards Tony