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Praising Putin.

Treasure Hunter

Well-Known Member
Listen, when the Son of Man brings the sword, he is bringing division. There is a version of the Strong Man who is the Messiah, but there are many more versions that seek power, violence and death. That is division.

Let he who has power renounce it. That is what the Strong Man who is guided by the Spirit of Truth does. Is that what Putin is doing?
 

John D. Brey

Well-Known Member
Your mistaken the Ukrainian never had any nukes the Russians had nukes and took them back - if the Ukrainian wants nukes they have to develop them. They can't just take Russian nukes and claim them as their own Russia would never allowed it because they belong to the Russians. Would Russia allow the Ukraine to threaten them with Russian nukes not a chance they removed them.

Ukraine had the means of producing their own nuclear weapons. That's what Zelenskyy says they gave up under the pretense that their national integrity would be guarded by others if they both gave up the weapons that were under Soviet control, and didn't manufacture their own.

Isn't there a saying about possession being nine tenths of ownership? Ukraine possessed a ton of nuclear weapons. If they forcefully took full ownership of them, since they were on their soil after all, and booted the Soviets, it's hard to image Russia attempting force to get them back?



John
 
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John D. Brey

Well-Known Member
Let he who has power renounce it. That is what the Strong Man who is guided by the Spirit of Truth does. Is that what Putin is doing?

If the power is directed at God, or against God, sure. But though we're not of this world, we currently reside here. Without the means of securing our freedom, our temporary sojourn in the devil's world could be a lot more unpleasant.



John
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
And if I completely disagree with you, and I do, you'll naturally not claim my viewpoint is wrong, as though you reject opposition to what you believe?



John
First, I'll point out the false equivalence where you pretend that "opposition" means mere "disagreement"
Second, I'll call you delusional, or ignorant at best. Putin has a despicably long track record of getting rid of political opposition and voices. Through imprisonment, poisoning, what-have-you.

You might want to inform yourself.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Someone in this thread implied that one of Putin's primary faults is believing 110% in whatever he believes or says.

I disagree with that.
I think it's obvious that Putin is very much aware of his blatant lies.
This is why he feels the need to shut down all news media that isn't on his "approved" list.
This is why he feels the need to kill or imprison his political opponents.
This is why he signs laws that rape freedom of speech.

Because he lies and knows he lies and wants his russian subjects not to know about it.

Thank God that you have no army (that I know of) in order to do to me what Putin is doing to Ukraine since those who think in terms of their own absolute goodness and correctness could be thought to be not only dangerous to themselves but to those who don't recognize their access to the 110% truth of a matter.

That made no sense whatseover.

How is your innate ability to perceive, with better than 110% accuracy, what Putin is thinking, and doing, not subject to Putin's own authoritarian epistemological bent?

Because my eyes aren't firmly shut to reality.
This is what he does. It is what he has been doing for the past decades.
It's why he poisons or imprisons political opposition.
It's why he signs laws that can put reporters in prison for upto 15 years, simply for telling the truth when that truth that deviates from the Putin propaganda.

It's what power hungry dictators do.
We see the exact same behavior in North Korea and in every other dictatorship that the world has ever known.

I'm sure to Putin his rightness, correctness, goes without saying

Forget about it....
Putin is a narcistic psychopath. He stands above "rightness". Morality doesn't apply to him. Whatever keeps him in power, is "right" in his eyes.

Again, this is typical of authoritarian dictators.
It's a trait they all share.


Of course you're right but Putin isn't. I've no doubt that seems perfectly self-evident to you.

Yes.

I don't start wars to protect my absolute power.
I don't poison my adversaries to protect my absolute power.
I don't do whatever it is I have to do (regardless of ethical implications) to protect my absolute power.

I don't even WANT absolute power.

Yes, I consider such position to be immensly morally superior then the authoritarian narcistic view the likes of Putin has.

And at the same time, I'm seriously judging you for even attempting to defend an authoritarian narcistic maniac like him.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
In message number 238, I noted that at times our body naturally wars against itself. If a disease is found in the cells of the body, our body attacks the disease sometimes leading even to the destruction and loss of a limb. If the disease can't be destroyed, then the body will sometimes euthanize itself rather than allow the disease to create a slower and more painful death.

The Woke ideas found throughout the West are a death-sentence for the West. The Woke ideas in the West threaten not just the West, but the whole of humanity.

Putin is the human race fighting back against the humanism, the rejection of man's corrupt nature, that can destroy humanity as a whole. In this sense, like the puss and infection found in the body, Putin is fighting the good fight no matter if it stinks, and is ugly and painful.

Jesus, the great Jewish sages, and St. Paul, in Romans chapter one, taught that the single most dangerous canary in the coal mine so far as mankind acquiring a Woke ideology capable of destroying mankind, is when homosexual marriage is seen not as an aberration, but as something as natural, as right, as rain. This sort of humanism is the harbinger of unbelievable pain and suffering as a necessary antidote to the destruction of humanity. According to Jesus it will be the undeniable sign of the final generation of mankind as we know it.

In Midrash Rabbah, the Jewish sages say (and they said this three hundred years ago long before it became a modern practice) that God tolerates all sin but one: giving marriage certificates to homosexuals. They say that he destroyed the antediluvian world because of that sin. Likewise, Jesus compared our day (the final generation of mankind) to the days of Noah (when homosexuality was not considered aberrant, but glorious), and Sodom and Gomorrah, where homosexuality was normal, and heterosexuality an aberration.

Homosexual sexuality isn't itself the problem or the point (homosexual sexuality is a personal decision that's the business of no one but those involved). It's the fact that when society itself, refuses to label an act aberrant, and another normal, that human "Being-ness" (in Heidegger's sense) is under full, frontal, naked, attack.

Putin is a godsend in that kind of environment. God pray he wakes up the Woke West before God is forced to do it himself.

Oh . . . btw, let me be the first to welcome you to the forum! :D




John

Sexuality is not a choice. it is a birthright. it is the same through the whole ani9mal kingdom. though more obvious in some species than others.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
In the thread discussing St. Paul's take on same-sex marriage, a theory was proffered that, if it's fully understood, leads to praise for Vladimir Putin. While the whole world gangs up on Putin, in truth, Putin is more like the character John Galt in Putin's fellow citizen's universally renown book Atlas Shrugged.

Though today's Christians pile on to the gang rape of Putin, their ancient ancestors, to include St. Paul, and the other Apostles, would be appalled at the Putin haters and not at Putin himself; they'd be appalled that Christians have become so blind and so willing to sell their soul for a crust of bread from their globalist, universalist, humanist, masters.

May our Lord strengthen Putin and enfeeble the feeble-minded oblivious to the fact that in their lust to destroy Putin they're actually destroying the world with whom they're so madly in love (1 John 2:15).




John
spiritual warfare is mightier than the sword


The Hermetic alchemists asserted that the Great Work was an opus contra naturam;[11] Paul's use of "against nature" (παρὰ φύσιν, Romans 1:26) may have been given a similar allegorical meaning by the Naassene exegete. It is certainly possible that the Naassenes viewed homosexuality as exemplifying their concept of androgyny. Carl Jung remarked, "such a disposition should not be adjudged negative in all circumstances, in so far as it preserves the archetype of the Original Man, which a one-sided sexual being has, up to a point, lost."[12] But as to evidence of any "unseemly" acts, Hippolytus writes that in every way, "they are not emasculated, and yet they act as though they were."[13]

just so you know, that was taken from hyppolytus' refutation of all heresies

Naassenes - Wikipedia



 
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