Pressure On Biden To Pardon Trump

[Soandso]

Why would Biden pardon Trump when he'll be able to just pardon himself?

 

[BrokenBread]

Sigh.

He is old, fat, and has a bad diet. He will not release his medical records and is clearly showing signs of dementia/cognitive decline. The actuarial tables suggest that he will not make 80, though it is not impossible.

The hate filled bloody tactics of your brethren are an open secret .

By Sarah Ferris and Elena Schneider
07/08/2024, 2:15pm ET
......" So, we’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye,” Biden said.

 

[BrokenBread]

He's an old man, dude. Everybody dies someday.


Edit: Wait ... who do you think tried to assassinate Trump?? Who is "you guys?"
I'm pretty sure that @Regiomontanus did not try to assassinate Trump.

The hate filled bloody tactics of those yearning for a Banana Republic are an open secret .

By Sarah Ferris and Elena Schneider
07/08/2024, 2:15pm ET
......" So, we’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye,” Biden said.

 

[SkepticThinker]

The hate filled bloody tactics of your brethren are an open secret .

By Sarah Ferris and Elena Schneider
07/08/2024, 2:15pm ET
......" So, we’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye,” Biden said.

There was nothing hate filled about what that poster said.


Trump is old. Old people tend to be closer to death. Everybody dies. Even Trump. Relax.

 

[Regiomontanus]

The hate filled bloody tactics of your brethren are an open secret .

By Sarah Ferris and Elena Schneider
07/08/2024, 2:15pm ET
......" So, we’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye,” Biden said.

Relax, brother.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The judge is already considering throwing out the conviction

You are conflating two cases. That could happen with his New York criminal conviction. Or on the other end of the spectrum he could even be imprisoned until January 20th. That is a state case and the President cannot say "Boo" about it. The President has pardoning power over federal cases.

The judge could also sentence Trump to prison but put it on hold for four years. Trump would have no control over that case as President. They would not be enable to enforce it until he was out of office, or as in the extreme case, before he got into office.

I cannot see the judge throwing it out since it was an extremely solid conviction.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If he pardons Trump, he should pardon Hunter.
But I think neither one should be pardoned.

"Dead "? ( Regiomontanus)
Really ?
You guys have already tried Assassination, after resigning to the fact your lawfare was a big a loser that the majority of Americans saw right thru .
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That was a Republican that shot at Trump. You should follow the news more closely.

 

[anna.]

That would be interesting, because as far as I know there is no fixed legal opinion on whether he could do that. On the face of it, it would be a self-evident nonsense and contrary to any principle of justice and even basic common sense. But in the crazy world that seems to be the result of our going through some kind of time warp*, who knows?

* Honestly, I sometimes wonder if I will one day wake up in a normal sensible world, and say "Hey honey, I just had the craziest dream! Donald Trump, you know that guy on the TV show, was President!"

That's the thing about the Trump era - it doesn't matter to him if there's a fixed legal opinion. He smashed right through that in his first administration; he did what he wanted, and dared anyone to stop him, and most of the time the cowards cowered. Knowing he has that power, only with an administration this time around all too happy to remove the guardrails for him? Anything is possible.

 

[Shaul]

Bill Barr calls on prosecutors to drop legal actions against Trump

 

[Nimos]

That would be interesting, because as far as I know there is no fixed legal opinion on whether he could do that. On the face of it, it would be a self-evident nonsense and contrary to any principle of justice and even basic common sense. But in the crazy world that seems to be the result of our going through some kind of time warp*, who knows?

* Honestly, I sometimes wonder if I will one day wake up in a normal sensible world, and say "Hey honey, I just had the craziest dream! Donald Trump, you know that guy on the TV show, was President!"

You can be sure that he will get rid of them all, as others have said these people don't follow the same rules as anyone else. And Trump doesn't think he did anything wrong and all the voters have given him a mandate to do these things, so he doesn't even need to give any excuse. It wouldn't make sense to vote for him and then when he exploits his power to then gets angry about it. That is why it is so crazy how it is possible and Trump has demonstrated to anyone how to play the system.

It would be absurd if any republican voter ever complained about a criminal running for president or anything for that matter, they have absolutely no valid argument to ever complain about it again.

 

[Alien826]

Trump is old. Old people tend to be closer to death. Everybody dies. Even Trump. Relax.

But won't he rise again on the third day?

 

[Revoltingest]

If the person did nothing illegal, why would they need or accept a pardon?

To avoid prosecution.
But who says they did nothing illegal?
I don't think "acceptance" is a thing.
It's just granted.

 

[Revoltingest]

Why? Trump will just pardon himself during his Day One Dictatorship.

We'll see if that happens, & is held constitutional.

 

[Regiomontanus]

We'll see if that happens, & is held constitutional.

Any Scottish prognostications on how the current Supreme Court would rule on such a case?

 

[Revoltingest]

Nah.
I'd keep it going if I were a loser who had my butt handed to me as well.
It's good look after all, so why not ?
Going after your political opponents who you know are going to take you to the cleaners on election day using the law as a hammer just as Putin & other communist Banana republics do with rivals is really a very popular technique with the people.
And such a well proven, very effective method of shutting down & squelching any effort by your rival to compete & run against you .
And besides even if by chance the populace universally recognized your lawfare....

It's not my "lawfare".
But I do advocate prosecuting high officials
for crimes they commit. Allowing them total
immunity hasn't served USA well at all.

.....for the naked political motivated attack that it was....

The crimes were also politically motivated.
And the objection to prosecution is too.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

and is clearly showing signs of dementia/cognitive decline.

I haven't seen any evidence of that.

 

[Regiomontanus]

The crimes were also politically motivated.

Nailed it.

 

[Revoltingest]

The judge is already considering throwing out the conviction

So once again, Presidents & ex-Presidents
are totally above the law.

 

[Revoltingest]

It would be nice if Trump could be held accountable for his crimes. But I think that now that he has a four year reprieve, he will be dead before having to face any consequences for his actions.

I vote no on a pardon.

I agree that a pardon would be moot.
So no need for granting one that would
merely signal that Presidents are above
the law.

 

[Revoltingest]

If he pardons Trump, he should pardon Hunter.
But I think neither one should be pardoned.

I'd prefer that Presidents have
no ability to pardon anyone.