waitasec
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because we all die?
But fortunately we can choose not to sin with our volition. We are programmed to sin but not helpless to resist it.
as a christian, do you really believe this is possible?
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programmed to sin
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because we all die?
as a christian, do you really believe this is possible?
if we are 'programmed' to do it, how can we resist it??..such as lust, or a jealous/spurned husband or boyfriend that kills...they are not thinking rationally..they are hurt and in pain and want to stop the pain...they think the ONLY way to stop the pain is to get rid of the person causing it...as in another thread of mine, how come in ''certain'' parts of cities, there are the majority of murders??how come these people in this 1 area cannot 'resist' the sin of murder??you would think murders would be evenly spaced around a city area, if everyone hAd the SAME ''will to resist''..no?Being "programmed to sin" is also called "sin nature" or "original sin." It describes the individual and the whole of mankind. It is the ancestral stain.
But fortunately we can choose not to sin with our volition. We are programmed to sin but not helpless to resist it.
Midnight Pete
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Being made in His image and likeness is of no protection against our own fallen nature. It means at one point we were much closer to God than we are now. And by "closer" I do mean physically or geographically closer. I mean spiritually closer. So IMO it wasn't God that fell away from us but rather we who fell away from Him.
JustAsking
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Didn't we basically start as Adam and Eve? They were supposedly made perfect in every way? Didn't they, as the first of "us" sin right from the get go? I just don't understand how we could be said to have "fell away" if we were made flawed right out of the gate.
Or am I understanding this wrong?
As far as I can tell, we're how God intended. Sinful right from the beginning. Again, if we're in his image...
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
But it implies that God can fall.
Midnight Pete
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When was human nature not what it currently is?
When was it ever not in our nature to steal and lie and kill?
That is human behavior, not human nature. Human nature is common to all nature. That nature is the desire to be, to extend. There is good in the world and I must have it from the instinct for self preservation all the way up to gratitude. All things work toward their own good depending on what that model of good is. The past does not exist.
Midnight Pete
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What else but human nature would dictate our behaviour?
By his words a man is justified.
Midnight Pete
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The creative process proceeds thought, word, and deed. All things begin with conception, let the mind be in you that is in christ jesus and behavior follows. Animus animates animal. You tell the body where to go, we always choose with a guide, our idea of good or best results.
Midnight Pete
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You can make all kinds of noise with your mouth. The speaking I am talking about is conception which is tied to the abundance of our heart, as in if you lust after you have already committed adultery. The liar does not succeed in his deception, the secret dialogue comes out, or god is not mocked.
The concept of trinity depicts a process or ray of creation, a law without opposite, thought, word, deed. Let us make man in our own image.
All anxiety comes from the imaging process, it means there is some inaccurate statement coming from our inner dialogue. We respond to things as we have represented them to ourselves.
It is wrong to overindulge in anything, because it causes problems. Overeating causes weight problems, over-drinking causes liver damage, people can get STDs from having unprotected sex with a lot of people, and so on. I never believed that God made rules like that just to be mean.
Thesavorofpan
Is not going to save you.
I'm just thinking here, but If we are program to do evil then we also must be program to do good, since it's an impossibility to have one without the other of course.
Midnight Pete
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Yes, that's the duality of human nature.
well, I truly believe if you don't give a male child love, discipline, and teach him right and wrong, they 'usually' will do more bad--males are NATURALLY aggressive/violent to a degree...if you've ever read about serial killers, or some male murderers or rapists, they don't think they are 'wrong'.... o, I forgot to mention, why are most murderers male!!!!!??????..because MALES have the CHEMICALS that program us...
I don't know. Women may not be physically more aggressive, but I have known some pretty aggressive women in my day. Particularly during my time in the Navy.
waitasec
Veteran Member
why were we much closer to his image then than now? this makes doesn't sense to me...
does time have anything to do with it? i thought god was omnipresent?