Propaganda: Why it is necessary for Islam

[ProudMuslim]

Freedom of speech means freedom to criticize and freedom to offend, but what these creeps are engaged in is hate speech and speech which incites brutal violence. That is not criticism.

Those creeps and creeps like KKK are protected under your sick laws.

 

[Alla Prima]

Those creeps and creeps like KKK are protected under your sick laws.

There are exceptions such as defamation and incitement to riot but generally freedom of speech in the United States is highly valued and protected.

 

[Fatihah]

Post 774 - what I failed to comprehend.

Response: Read posts 761,763 and 767. You claimed that I made a statement calling myself a black kettle in which the statement says nothing of that nature, hence your inability to comprehend.

 

[England my lionheart]

There are exceptions such as defamation and incitement to riot but generally freedom of speech in the United States is highly valued and protected.

And in the UK,however it isn't in the home of Islam Saudi Arabia,perhaps if Saudi were to miraculously change all would follow,this is a major stumbling block for so called liberal Muslims,how do you change the core of the Ummah.

 

[AbuKhalid]

And in the UK,however it isn't in the home of Islam Saudi Arabia,perhaps if Saudi were to miraculously change all would follow,this is a major stumbling block for so called liberal Muslims,how do you change the core of the Ummah.

Not at all. There are very few Muslims which support the Saudi taghut and that regime are certainly not the core of the Ummah. In the west they are portrayed as so and it is the same wests support that the regime could not stand without.

 

[England my lionheart]

Not at all. There are very few Muslims which support the Saudi taghut and that regime are certainly not the core of the Ummah. In the west they are portrayed as so and it is the same wests support that the regime could not stand without.

I hate to admit that they are supported and is something we must deal with

 

[McBell]

Response: Not at all. Why should I debate over common sense?

Now you merely a victim of wishful thinking.

 

[England my lionheart]

Not at all. There are very few Muslims which support the Saudi taghut and that regime are certainly not the core of the Ummah. In the west they are portrayed as so and it is the same wests support that the regime could not stand without.

So who or what is the core of the Ummah?

 

[Alla Prima]

Response: Read posts 761,763 and 767. You claimed that I made a statement calling myself a black kettle in which the statement says nothing of that nature, hence your inability to comprehend.

They say nothing. What's your point.

You don't have one do you?

 

[AbuKhalid]

So who or what is the core of the Ummah?

The righteous Scholars, alot of who are in fact imprisoned in places like Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan and also the Mujahideen. These are the two groups of people who are trying to restore Islam.

 

[Alla Prima]

The righteous Scholars, alot of who are in fact imprisoned in places like Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan and also the Mujahideen. These are the two groups of people who are trying to restore Islam.

Oh goodie - terrorists. How's that working for them?

 

[England my lionheart]

The righteous Scholars, alot of who are in fact imprisoned in places like Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan and also the Mujahideen. These are the two groups of people who are trying to restore Islam.

So basically they are impotent,Islam IMHO needs to reform and not restore as i see that as going backwards,for me it is Muslims living as your Prophet did 1400 years ago that causes problems,

 

[AbuKhalid]

So basically they are impotent,Islam IMHO needs to reform and not restore as i see that as going backwards,for me it is Muslims living as your Prophet did 1400 years ago that causes problems,

They are not impotent at all. There is an Islamic awakening occurring throughout the Ummah and those I mentioned are getting stronger by the day.

 

[kai]

The righteous Scholars, alot of who are in fact imprisoned in places like Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan and also the Mujahideen. These are the two groups of people who are trying to restore Islam.

AbuKhalidcould you please expand on "Mujahideen", like where? and what organisations they like to call themselves?

 

[McBell]

The righteous Scholars, alot of who are in fact imprisoned in places like Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan and also the Mujahideen. These are the two groups of people who are trying to restore Islam.

Define "restore"

 

[AbuKhalid]

Define "restore"

Restore the Caliphate and Islamic law.

 

[AbuKhalid]

AbuKhalidcould you please expand on "Mujahideen", like where? and what organisations they like to call themselves?

I would refer to the vast majority of Sunni groups waging Jihad as Mujahideen based on the fact that they are fighting for Islam.

The main ones would be those in Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq, Chechnya, Somalia, Philippines, Kashmir. But it would also include those fighting against governments such as that of Saudi and Egypt.

 

[kai]

I would refer to the vast majority of Sunni groups waging Jihad as Mujahideen based on the fact that they are fighting for Islam.

The main ones would be those in Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq, Chechnya, Somalia, Philippines, Kashmir. But it would also include those fighting against governments such as that of Saudi and Egypt.

And how do you feel about Iranian aid to certain Mujahideen in Iraq,Palestine and elsewhere? and when you say Afghanistan do you mean the Taliban? if so, are they righteous then in there actions and beliefs?

 

[Alla Prima]

I would refer to the vast majority of Sunni groups waging Jihad as Mujahideen based on the fact that they are fighting for Islam.

The main ones would be those in Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq, Chechnya, Somalia, Philippines, Kashmir. But it would also include those fighting against governments such as that of Saudi and Egypt.

Fighting for Islam? I hear you but too many don't. The West needs to realize Islam's inherent imperialistic purposes and that it is anything but compatible with Liberal Democracies. I gotta admit - you guys are good at pulling the wool over our eyes. I've always thought that that was the true genius of Islam.

 

[kai]

Fighting for Islam? I hear you but too many don't. The West needs to realize Islam's inherent imperialistic purposes and that it is anything but compatible with Liberal Democracies. I gotta admit - you guys are good at pulling the wool over our eyes. I've always thought that that was the true genius of Islam.

I dint think AbuKhalid has any intentions of even trying to pull the wool over anyones eyes here, this really is his belief.